Old Chester, PA: Guest Book entries August 2002
Back to the Guest Book at "The Newsstand"
Name: no name
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 22:57:58
This is humor folks----- smile
Name: No names adversary adversary
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 22:55:16
leave no names alone
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 22:22:14
I said "goodby" and I meant it. However, I have found it very difficult to separate myself so quickly from something I have enjoyed for almost a year now. From what I have read on this board for the past week, the anonymous nasty posters refuse to say "goodbye" to me. Anyone who posts without a legitimate name, you wrongfully assume is me and your ugly words are attacking others who I am sure, are just shocked. You, my ugly friends, are the ones chasing people away. Granny, for instance, posts very enjoyable things, yet you assume she is me, and you attack her.
Never, never judge others by your own distasteful standards. If your standards were higher, you would project love, not hate, and assume that others are as gracious and as giving to humanity as you. So, your character is revealed in what you post, and intelligent people give no homage nor respect to the words you use.
If only you would realize what a disgrace your antagonisms are to this gift from John Bullock through the grace of God, perhaps you would cease and desist. This is not a "private site" nor a "chat room"; it is a website open to anyone and everyone throughout the WORLD. What must the rest of this country think now about a small, little-known city south of Philadelphia, that contributed so much to the very beginning of this country and then our blood, sweat and tears to defend this proud country during every war, especially WW11. What a disgrace we are to a our proud and hard-working ancesters, without whom even the "internet" would not be possible.
Some of you may resent my "memories", but by God, I have every right to post them as I remember them; and I am very proud of the many, yes many, memories I have written down here for future generations to perhaps read and enjoy and think, "Wow - that's something I never knew" or "imagine having to do that" = like hanging your living room rug on the clothesline to beat, in order to clean it."
My generation was indeed a "genteel" generation; men were gentleman and women were ladies. All that has changed, but for better?
If you choose to post attacking other posters, what are you teaching future generations? Someone said here just recently that there are many intelligent people just waiting to get on this board, but it is monopolized by the oldchester critic". That remark alone is not only ignorant, but the utmost insult to this site and everything it was created to do. I said I would no longer post; now where are all these people with memories to post? Where, indeed are the posts? I hoped my departure would make that possible, however no posts of memories, but several leaches still hanging on to appease themselves to attack - and if you think it makes you look "important"; WRONG - too much anger, hostility and jealousy - three of the seven deadly sins. WOW! Only four more to go, then BINGO! Try to remember to "Do unto others, as you would like done to yourself". Remember that!
I have asked for guidance in order to post this, and I humbly ask for the support of all of you who respect this site and want the elimination of disrespectful remarks and the furtherance of the honor of our birthplace to continue. Chester's people were good, honest, hard working and God-fearing people with a lot of self-respect and respect for each other.
I suggest to all who care about this site to perhaps pick a day and time, and together we will pray for God's help to restore this site to what John Bullock meant it to be. The anniversary of 911 is just days away; let's remember that halocost with reverence for not only those who perished, but the living who hurt, and hurt, and make a solemn oath to respect and try to soothe hurts.
If you care to set a date and time, I will respond and we will and can do it.
Name: Tekla
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 18:38:54
6:19PM..Tuesday 82756 Date: 31 Aug 2002 6:12PM ..84250
In less than 1 week..1494 people have viewed this message board...since my last post 58 have left messages. A lot of people have opened the door to oldchesterpa and entered but did not leave a calling card... and there is plenty of room on the message board to leave it. Why would just afew messages on a board of such interest and history stop people from writing here.. you were given a gift many years ago and then two years ago you were given a gift again by Mr. Bullock..I think you are a lucky people. Your first ammendment was given you as a part of your histroy, and it still is the envy of people around this world.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/charters_of_freedom/bill_of_rights/amendments_1-10.html
Name: Auntie
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 16:13:29
The most intelligent poster? What an ego! conceited all the way. why don't you just stop like you said you would. gave yourself away with your childish he he's. ha ha's,
Oh Oh she's backwith her nastiness! aw shucks! I told that nitwit granny, no pat, no name, to keep her word but she didn't. guess there's not much to do in the desert. so she finds ways anonymously or aliases,(throw the first stone nitwit) to post irreverent (mean & nasty) and irrelevant (arizona and england) non chester USA history. you might think she was the only one from chester. boring!! wake up! there are more intelligent people out there just waiting to get on this board when it isn't being monopolized by the oldchesterpa.com CRITIC!LOL HE HE
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 14:14:04
Let Freedom Ring. Last I heard this was still a free country and anyone that has something to say is welcome to do it. John has enough problems with out everyone using up space. If you don't like it pass by it. no one says you have to read it.Whether you like it or not Pat has contributed a lot of Chester history. Now is the time we should all be pulling together not apart.
Name: News Flash...
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 12:59:51
think hard, can you identify any of these people from Weinbergs or the Lace Mill..
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/business_department_stores_weinberg_employees_1958.htm
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/mills_chester_lace_girls.htm
Name: MY NAME
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 12:33:00
Not Pat? He, He, He, Ha. Sure, if you say so. I see plenty of memories here except the one you are replying to so just stop.
Name: MY NAME
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 12:32:46
Not Pat? He, He, He, Ha. Sure, if you say so. I see plenty of memories here except the one you are replying to so just stop.
Name: NOT PAT
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 11:42:09
Well, well, I see the posts still are not about memories of Chester. And you ran off the most intelligent poster. Thousands of people look at this web-site, what must they think about your stupidity??
Name: No-Names Adversary
Email:
Residing: Chester
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 00:09:05
To the person who suggests that certain people email instead of posting on this site - honey, you have no idea of what goes on behind the scene. You might try emailing yourself, I mean to yourself and others, instead of posting your unnecessary and useless ccomments. If by Irrevelant, you meant irreverent, you are right, there is a lot of disrespectful remarks posted here. If you meant irrelevant which means not relating to anything worthwhile here, then you are again correct, your post was irrelevant.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 31 Aug 2002
Time: 00:06:34
She's still here.AKA Granny & Knitwit.
Name: Knitwit
Email:
Residing:
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 23:49:56
hey - i smart about music tho I real smart. ask me anything.
Name: Knitwit
Email:
Residing:
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 23:42:58
no, bus driver never talked to me he thunk I was dumb. nobody ever talk to me cept Granny. you was lucky to have uncle elmer. that where you got so smart
Name: George ReevesCHS56
Email:
Residing:
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 23:42:26
Sonny May still has the best water ice and is building a new stand on second street.
Name: louis thomas(CHS '72)
Email: louis_thomas54@hotmail.com
Residing: maryland
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 22:56:20
I just heard about this site during the class of'72's 30th reunion! This is a great site about Chester's history. Does May's still make the best "Water ice" in town?
Name: Shirley Lambert
Email:
Residing:
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 22:21:35
Omigod....that's right....wow now it is all coming back! Thanks so much!
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 21:53:29
Hi, Knitwit, You are lucky to have an ansister like Granny to teach you to spell. I had an Uncle Elmer who drove a bus. Do you remember who drove your bus?
Name: To Shirley Lambert
Email:
Residing:
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 20:47:00
Bombergers Drug store is shut down. The store aCross the Street was called Martha' Shop.
Name: Knitwit
Email:
Residing: usa
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 20:27:11
i don't learn good but i wannna hear about herbert's store - that's what we should talk about herbert's store and things like that. that person who talked about that is real smart to she learned that on a bus. i always learned a lot on buses, not in school but i learned how to spell pretty good by my granny.
Name: News Flash
Email:
Residing:
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 19:42:14
Updates from What's new: JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED CHECKING TODAY.. Thanks to John B., Harvey and Jack
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/biographies/chadwick_e_wallace.htm
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/biographies/defuria_joseph_w.htm
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/schools_trainer_elementary.htm
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/reunions/trainer_all_reunion.htm
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: Prospect Park PA
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 15:08:45
Bob: I remember the Lomas brothers. I remember a Bob marth, the wojs, and Paul. I lived across the street from Paul. I hung with Pete Rhoads. I just found out a month ago when I saw Elaine while I was out to dinner that her brother Jerry had passed not to long ago. He had post truamatic stress syndrome from Vietnam, but I on't know if that contributed to his death. I didn't really question Elaine because I was stunned to hear it. Jerry was also my friend. He would have been about 50 I guess. I probably know you.
Name: Bud Haynes
Email: KV7G@prodigy.net
Residing: Yuma, AZ
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 10:37:55
Knitwit: Ella Mae Morse was one of my favorites too. I was in Laughlin, NV last year and read that she had passed away and that she lived in Bullhead City, AZ which is across the river from Laughlin. It is very interesting reading the comments here, but the largest percentage of em are after my time in Chester.
Bud
Name: dave shrop
Email: shropfam@aol
Residing: wilm.,de.
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 10:37:34
love to read about all the good times of chester past.too bad times change,i remember collecting bottles and taking them to john viera's beer outlet at 10th and potter to get $$$ for skating and the movies(mac), or for an xtra 50cents splurge and go to the state or boyd,or really hustle to get a pair of chuck taylor converses.all the stores downtown,l&m,collars and cuffs, spears , weinbergs,murrays.and how about penny candy and comic books.now they sell penny candy by the pound.keep the memories going everyone, it's great.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 08:22:14
What's new updated:
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/wirz.htm
Name: barbara battersby (duke)
Email: hon132@hotmail.com
Residing: lykens,pa
Date: 30 Aug 2002
Time: 08:12:49
i've been reading all the recent posts about the "rez" reunion and looking at the photos. wow, did it bring up lots of growing up memories. i recognized several of the older "10th street" gang. only recognized 1 of the younger ones being margie mylett. my goodness--she looks the same as i remember her when we were young. i seen a post from her brother pat and sister katheleen too. i grew up next door to the mylett's. my grandparents raised me. i am mr. and mrs. coppock's grandaughter . i didn't attend rez, but just about my whole neighborhood did. i used to pal around with maria henderson, susan baron, the quinn kids, delorio's, sweeney's , maher's,,,,,,,i knew all the neighborhood people too. growing up on 10th street was great. it was such a nice neighborhood. i sure do miss the way it used to be. i could go on and on.
Name: BOB
Email: myttbad@yahoo.com
Residing: NC
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 23:12:27
I grew up in (THE VILLAGE) as it was called. had many a good time as a kid. Iliked going to the Lyric or Boyd theaters when I could make enough money to go. Also remember the GREAT LEOPARD SKATING RINK was a great place to spend weekends.man I have alot of very fond memories of that great little town.Lots of friendly people and some of the finest woman anywhere. (Sure miss those hoagies and steaks.)Might be posting more when and if I can remember my mind kinda went in the late 70s. Hey anyone remember Mike Lomas,Pete Marth,Dave Wojs,Paul Scarpato,
Name: Shirley Lambert
Email:
Residing: Delaware
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 22:29:35
I remember when I was a wee one going to a drug store called "Bombergers" (i think that was the name of it) and sitting at the soda counter waiting for my mom to finish shopping in there. It was located on 3rd street off of highland avenue. Does anyone remember that store? There was also a store across the street that sold some fabrics, linens and other items...does anyone remember the name of that store?
Name: June Benson Gautieri
Email: June-Benson@webtv.net
Residing: Phila., Pa
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 22:24:04
Just saw notice on the board concerning Otto Greenleaf, a 1957 graduate of Chester High. Does anyone know any of the details. I saw him two years ago at the Oldchesterpa reunion. My heart goes out to his family and he will be in my prayers.
Name: Lewis
Email: srchr215@aol.com
Residing: Virginia
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 20:42:34
Anyone remember a hardware store from the 30's owned by Arthur B. Lewis?
Name: knitwit
Email:
Residing: USA
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 19:47:36
anyone seen joey malone around? he used to hang on the newstand ever nite. sometimes all nite miss that guy
Name: Knitwit
Email:
Residing: USA
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 19:12:07
chester used to have really nice people one time on the bus my granny was standing on the corner and I were on the bus, see. I yelled to her if she were coming over for supper on sunday. she didn't hear me so another guy on the bus asked her for me. weren't that nice? don't rember what she said
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 18:12:14
Granny, you so right. It was a slower,gentler time. Maybe families were closer. It was just different. Kate , I think alot of things were handled differently. I had a lot of great friends in my neighborhood. A lot of wonderful things happened and also a few sad things. It is life, the good with the bad. I say a prayer for your boy every day. You know that song kids lrarn for their first chorus in school, I have een thinking about it, it goes, Let their be peace on earth and let it begin with me. remember.
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing:
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 17:30:57
Florence, I agree with you, wish I would of been older then to enjoy the 50's. Granny, right on all counts.
Name: Granny
Email:
Residing: Virtual Old Chester
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 17:06:03
What is it about Chester that has created such a strong sense of attachment to the City?
Is it memories of the old neighborhood where kids played games like 'kick the can'and 'stick ball' after school with their friends?
Is it memories of walking to school with your friends?
Is it about a time when kids weren't playing video games and computer games and head phones playing music to isolate themselves from the world?
Is it memories of riding the bus to town to shop instead of going to a Mall?
Is it memories of a kinder and gentler time?
What is the intangible that draws so many to this site?
What do you think?
Name: Knitwit
Email:
Residing: USA
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 16:56:07
Yea - what about ella mae morse - don't she count
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 16:35:04
The fifties were the greatest. The music was great.And their were a lot of places to go dancing after hours.
Name: Bud Haynes
Email: KV7G@prodigy.net
Residing: Yuma, AZ
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 14:55:18
Knitwit: If you read my post from yesterday you will see that I said "Will Bradley Trio" The other info was copied and pasted from a site. The Will Bradley trio was Will Bradley, Ray McKinley and Freddie Slack.
Bud
Name: Knitwit
Email:
Residing:
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 11:40:31
I think will bradley had the will bradley trio, not orchestra.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 29 Aug 2002
Time: 06:03:30
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/fall2001_gettogether.htm#salvation_army
Name: Bud Haynes
Email: KV7G@prodigy.net
Residing: Yuma, AZ
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 21:43:18
Shirley: After I posted I HAD to know if I was right or not. Here is what I found in a search.
"(All-American Band Leaders, July, 1942). In 1939, at the suggestion of booking agent Willard Alexander, McKinley joined forces with Will Bradley (formerly Wilber Schwitsenberg) to form the "Will Bradley Orchestra featuring Ray McKinley." With McKinley on vocals and drums, the band's several hits included Beat Me Daddy, Eight to the Bar, Down the Road Apiece and Celery Stalks at Midnight."
Bud
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 21:38:33
Worked for Marones, and you are right, she had the best "gravy". In fact all the food was excellent. All her pastas, including raviolis' were homemade. A great place for Italian food and a great family.
Name: Ed
Email:
Residing: Boothwyn, Pa
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 21:12:19
I used to go to Marones every Friday nite, after I got paid.Mrs Marone made ravioli with the best gravy. To this day I have yet to mathch the taste of her gravy. My mouth still waters when I think about those days, the fifties.
Name: Pat
Email: mom15386"nospam"@comcast.net
Residing: PA
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 21:07:22
I attended St Michael's during the Bay of Pigs scare. I was very young, but I remember during the drills when the sirens would go off we would have to go below the school and practice what we would do if the Communists would bomb the United States. I think that I remember going into what seemed like tunnels between the school and the church. Am I remembering correctly? Are there tunnels underground that go from the school to the church, or was it just a young child's fear and imagination?
Name: Bud Haynes
Email: KV7G@prodigy.net
Residing: Yuma, AZ
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 19:28:00
Shirley: If my memory is correct Celery Stalks at Midnight was played by the Will Bradley Trio around 1943.
Bud
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 18:22:13
sorry
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 18:20:43
GP I can remember that also. I remember Rodger's also,Shirley. Sunday was a day for family and church and quiet. Now they are all open all the time. Their are so many store's now. Who can shop that much. I remember Mr. Prosser got me my job in Rodger's about 1949. Long ago If I could have 15th and Walnut sts. the way they were. Memories of the way we used to be! Martin school and May day. Nothing ever stays the same.
Name: Shelly
Email:
Residing: PA
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 18:20:37
I remember Rodgers and York's used to do some shopping in downtown Chester when I was young. Used to be able to hop a bus to go there (wouldn't even think of trying that today).
Name: GP
Email:
Residing: Pa
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 17:02:18
I can well remember back when all the major food chains closed at 6pm saturday night and none of them opened on sunday.Now they are almost all open 24 - 7
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 15:16:45
Its about Chester, PA...one of its own.
http://www.geocities.com/broadcastpioneers/alberts.html
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 15:08:19
~ In Memory Of ~ Otto W. Greenleaf, Sr. d. August 25, 2002
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/lunch_pics.htm#greenleaf_otto
Name: Rose
Email:
Residing: PA
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 14:55:47
Regarding the "New Four Aces", a friend knows one personally. He told me all about the new group but having a senior moment. Will ask again about how they organized and how they are able to sing with the same name and will post what I find out for you.
Name: Shirley
Email:
Residing: DE
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 12:07:05
Anyone remember Rodgers Store (ladies apparel) that was my favorite store when i worked in the City...also the York Store too!
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 11:03:25
All the Way to Cape May
http://www.daylightimages.com/trackside/cmsl1.html
Name: floyd murray
Email: gooddoc02@hotmail.com
Residing: media, pa
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 10:01:37
"Does anyone remember Woolworths." Oh YES! On Edgmont Ave. - and the lunch counter there. Enjoyed many a good lunch and milkshake there as a teen. Bought paperbacks in their book section. If I recall, there was a downstairs section there also. Hal, you also wrote, "Remember when the stores closed at 5:30 and stayed open late on Fridays!!" Sure do - downtown Chester was THE place to shop on Friday nights. My parents often took me down there when I was a lad. Speare's Weinberg's, Murray's (no relation), Sears - especially nice at Christmas time. "The snows of yesteryear" eh?
Name: Hal (harold) Lloyd
Email: hm1979@gci.net
Residing: way up north
Date: 28 Aug 2002
Time: 00:51:06
Reading all these postings from people anywhere from 15 to 30 years older then me..Its like reading about a different Chester then I know. Anyone from the class of 75 or there or close? 75 was the first graduating class from the new building. Does anyone remember Woolworths. I Washed dishes after school there. Remember when the stores closed at 5:30 and stayed open late on Fridays!!
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 23:36:46
Can anyone tell me about the new "Four Aces"? How can they use the title since they are not the original. Were they given permission to use the name or are they related to the original four? They started in Chester so I thought maybe someone would know, is Harvey listening? Thank you in advance
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 22:36:03
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/sun_ship.htm
Name: rosie Sinkhorn
Email: june818@yahoo.com
Residing: Junction City Ky
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 21:32:51
I remember one thing about the Morton Ave Grade school was the second grade teacher in 1943 had the sharpest finger nails she hated these "Ky school Children" (as many came up from the south to work.made that statement too) She would raise you out of your seat for no reason at all with those finger nails dug into your ear lobes.
Name: rosie Sinkhorn
Email: june818@yahoo.com
Residing: Junction City Ky
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 21:22:43
Hi My father worked in the Sun ship building dry docks during WW2 from 1942 till nov 1946 we lived at 409 potter street not far from where Dad worked I started school at morton Ave grade school Does any one have a photo of that? My Dad was a Ky farmer but took up welding for the war effort after the war we came home.
Name: BILL SHEPHERD
Email: WWS365'''''''''''@AOL.COM
Residing: HOOK
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 20:59:50
HEY ALL YOU SOUTH CHESTER FOLKS HELLO FROM THE SHEP KLAN
Name: Knitwit
Email:
Residing: usa
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 20:09:17
what does irrevelant mean? always more people when people are arguing.
Name: Tekla
Email:
Residing:
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 18:38:39
10:30PM..Monday 82435. 6:19PM..Tuesday 82756
Since 10:30 last night there have been 321 people that have logged onto this message board. The post closest to 10:30 was posted by Caroline there have been 321 people that have filled the Newsstand with many memories. The Chester message board is alive and well.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 17:18:11
Gosh, that was a long irrevelant post by my namesake.
Name: knitwit
Email:
Residing: USA
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 16:02:39
yeah but a lot of chesters ansisters come from england. no england no chester.
Name: jimbo
Email:
Residing: exton,pa
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 13:17:19
Boy, only a local yocal would call Village Cafe "Rubes". That was always an adventure. Lot of the 10th street gang would hang there. Vesuvio's was the site of my first date "back in the day" with a girl who worked in Ginos. And just who did rent those rooms in the back by the miniature golf?
Name: shirley
Email:
Residing: Delaware
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 13:12:48
Thank you all, for the information on, "Celery Stalks at Midnight."
Name: Jamo Mc Kinney
Email: Decardconn@aol.com
Residing: wilmington
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 12:36:17
Someone mentioned Vesuevios on ninth st and it brought back memories of The Village Cafe (Rubes)across the street. Man after returning home from the service in 70 it seemed like all the people in the west end went there thursday thru sat nites.it was about the craziest bar ive ever been in.They allways had bands and we really had some great times there If any of the old Rubes Crowds out there in im land howbout you post oh and have fun on this site and quit the damn whinein later jamo
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 08:57:57
The games people play.
If all people, regardless of posting names or not, would post interesting facts about Old Chester,(the purpose of this site), and leave irrevelant personal banter for your own personal e-mails. The chat rooms have disappeard for lack of interest. It needs not to be carried to this posting board. Irrevelant chit chat about other cities, states and any self inflating ego banter has no place here.
Enough with the long winded useless ego inflating information posted which take up a lot of costly space and serves no purpose for any other person except the poster. Brief and interesting facts about Chester, just the facts ladies and gentleman, just the facts.
There are a lot more people out there who would love to post on this board but feel what they post will be picked apart by the "clique" who have taken over as their own personal website. Total disrespect for the person who started this site. I am sure he wants to reach out to many more new people, with roots in Chester, who have so much to contribute. When someone new logs on, find nothing but useless chit chat, then they feel threaten that their contribution would be ignored or picked apart. Has the concept of this website gone stale?
Hope not because I am sure a there are a lot more to be said by new posters who have interesting facts to share.
In fact, just in a conversation with a woman I met on a bus, she mentioned the fact that her husband worked for years at a store in Chester called "Herbert's". Had forgotten about that one and don't see it listed under businesses.
So you see, there is so much more to relate about Chester and not about other states or countries.
Name: XXX
Email:
Residing:
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 03:21:04
I agree with Joe. There also is no rule that says one MUST post their name either.
Name: Joe Archacki
Email: jarchacki69@attbi.com
Residing: Fresno , Ca.
Date: 27 Aug 2002
Time: 02:54:09
I have been coming to this sight for months now but have never post anything on The Newsstand board. I like to say that this is a open forum based on our first amendment. A right given to each citizens of the United States of America. I may not agree with ever word that is posted here night after night but I will not and should not judge one because of there believes and convictions. I chose to read and then pass by what (I Feel) is not worth the time. Because of the open forum of this web sight. (But I usually read 99% of the postings).Yes the site is about Chester, But there's no rule that says we can't mix it up a little.Or change the content of the board for a few hours or state a personal comment. There's always a posting about Chester some were or some time in between. That's my view. I grew up in Chester and in the mid 70's did four years in the Air Force. Came back for a year or so in the 80's. My roots may lye some were elks but you can never take Chester out of my heart. I still have many brother and sister and my dear Mother living in the area. My Father is resting in peace in the soil of Chester. Good day to all.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 22:17:47
Harvey Rocks..a champion to his friends.. A special man with a heart of pure gold...
Name: Paul D. Crowther
Email: pcrowther4@cogeco.ca
Residing: St. Catharines,Ontario
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 22:02:27
It takes a big person to apologize and an even bigger person to accept one. DJM... Loved the "beer" comment!
Name:
Email: Kate
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 21:48:20
Go, Go, Go Harvey!!!!
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 21:24:41
djm, Please forgive me for what I wrote pretending I was you. Harvey
Name: djm
Email:
Residing: myrtle beach
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 21:15:00
I've known pidipat for a long time and I want to apologize for what I put on this site yesterday. She is a good person and I sincerely apologize to her and to you people. I am not a mean person and there is no excuse for what I said (except maybe a few beers). She adds much to this site with her memories and friendships. I've been away from Chester since the early 70s and I've forgotten what the old town meant to me. Again, Pat, I'm sorry.
Name: knitwit
Email:
Residing: USA
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 20:20:24
I think clery stalks at midnight was by ella mae morse and ray mckinley
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 20:09:34
Celery Stalks at Midnight
http://americanhistory.si.edu/archives/d5635b.htm
Name: keywestmike
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 19:21:20
For Mary connor: mary please send me your e-mail address again, all got deleted when my puter crashed last nite...thanks Mary...mike
Name: Shirley
Email:
Residing: Delaware
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 19:16:11
Has anyone heard the song"Celerystalks at midnight"? Do you know which band played it? Is it still available? Thank you.
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing: PCB, Fl.
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 18:22:22
AGAIN, a no-name has the brass ones to criticize those of us who post our real names. I have said we all should have a place on this board to talk about Chester but the no-names have a protection so they can be nasty or whatever they want to be. Pat & I clashed in the beginning and as adults resolved our differences. No-names can't do that b/c they give nothing of theirselves. I will continue to post when I feel like it but then again the clique have other places to go & have fun so post some memories instead of worring about two Irish ladies.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 17:52:21
Kate you are another one. There was a time when you clashed heads with her, now that you have joined the clique, everyone else is wrong but you two. more class? that's debateable, you mean brass! more education? ho hum, that's debateable! more memeories of Chester? You mean more posts about Arizona and England than Chester.
As a senior who still resides 5 minutes from Chester, all should be welcomed on this board, young and old, residents and former residents. Names, No names. Ficticious names, Aliases, Anonymouses, whatever!
Now maybe some of the old posters will once again feel comfortable to post again.
The clique needs to be desolved and the posts should be about all about Chester.
After all, there are a heck of a lot more people in Chester and from Chester than those two.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 17:42:12
Hi, I've been lurking on this oldchester site for a long time and something is starting to annoy me. There's my old acquaintance, Pat, from REZ who told me about this web site. I never did like her but it seems as though she has made some friends...and look they all have names. I hope nobody ever finds out who I am. That's one of the reasons I never use my name when I post. I swore I'd never get into a conversation on this site. But it really annoys me that she has all those friends. Look there's Harvey and Florence and Caroline and Ed and Kate and Ray and Ruth and where will it end? I'll just have to break my vow of silence this one time and put her down. I'll tell all my anonymous friends she isn't as smart as she says she is. That will hurt her! All I have to do is squiggle out from under this rock and...
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing: PCB,Fl.
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 16:43:50
Shirley, Thanks for sharing the Rez pictures, the West-end had a great time, HUH?
Name: Shirley Lambert
Email:
Residing: DE
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 15:58:27
Catch some happy smiley faced people from the reunion of REZ at http://www.rezalumni.com/reunionpics.htm
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 15:28:33
NO_NAME, you are exactly who I was talking about. And you are posting saying you don't post,what humor in that! Get your facts straight also, I didn't say what you said I did, guess Ya can't read either.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 15:23:02
I don't post because of people like Pat(AZ)and all her attacking and now you Kate, thinking that anyone under 45 doesn't have anything worth contributing. I grew up in Chester also. Who are you to say that because I am 42 that I don't have any GOOD, CLEAN memories? I think that you OLDER people need to learn some manners and stop treating others so rudely. No wonder so many stay annonymous. It's because of people like you two.
Name: Joan M.
Email:
Residing: Virginia
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 15:21:04
I remember Vesuevio's on 9th street. I discovered it somewhere around 1958. I was in the CHS class of 1956 so I was already out of school and a mother. I would take my daughter for a walk and stop at Vesuevio's. She loved their pizza and cheese steaks.
Name: kyle
Email:
Residing: west chester
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 15:13:53
Hey, how about pizza? Anyone from the West End would have to say that Vesuevio's on 9th street had the best around. The Highland Cafe had a good change of pace pizza. Just trying to lighten up the mood around here again. C'mon Pat chime in.
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 15:02:31
Oh Pat, dont do that. Too many people will miss your garb. It is ashame that none of the younger have the deep memories that we have about Chester, afterall WE ARE THE GREATEST GENERATION AMEN
Name: Another Pat
Email:
Residing: Maryland
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 15:00:23
I stopped reading regularly and became a total non poster because of Pat in AZ otherwise known as Pidipat. God forbid that anyone should confuse the two of us.
She found her platform on this board and she ran with it. I cannot abide know-it-all's.
Name: kyle
Email:
Residing: west chester
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 14:47:31
Thanks Caroline. You're right, they somehow look smaller and less forboding with the green grass around them. Another treasured memory from the past.
Name: Kate(ND65)
Email: brit1675@bellsouth.net
Residing: Panama City Beach, Fl.
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 14:45:56
Florence, hello, thanks for asking about my son who is in the service, today he is still on US soil and doing fine but I never know from day to day. Keep those prayers coming for peace.
Patricia, I for one am very disappointed that you will not post on here any longer. OCB needs you & your memories. I think the reason the no-names and negative remarks come out of the closet when you post is b/c they will pick on anyone who has more class, education, and has good memories from Chester, the "kids" on here (anyone younger thanaround 45) don't have the good times to remember, Chester was fading fast after the 60's & before so they don't share the same good, clean memories of your generation. And the ones who never left are full of hatred as anyone can see by some of there posts. This is only my opinion but as far as I know everyone is allowed space on this board and for the ones who never post a memory or anything of importance stop spreading your nastiness. I learned a lot from this board and especially from Pat and her friends know she never intentionally hurt anyone & if she did would always apologize, she taught me to do that too!!
Name: floyd murray
Email: gooddoc02@hotmail.com
Residing: media, pa
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 14:39:08
Hi Everyone! I was not going to post for awhile but thought I may as well. First – my sincere condolences to the family of George Malick. He was a good man and shall be very much missed. He contributed a great deal to this page. To Jerry - Jerry spevak – Yes, Andy Buffano had a barbershop at the corner of 17th and Providence Ave. It was right on the corner. I don’t remember Al although I may have met him. My Father and Andy were friends since they were kids. Andy had a laryngectomy – his larynx had been removed. He swallowed air in order to speak. When I was an early teen my Dad took me up there for our haircuts. Dad privately explained to me what had happened to him. My Dad was a great piano player – I still have his tapes here – he liked ragtime – Scott Joplin, etc. He told me that Andy Buffano was the best piano teacher he had ever met. He could not play in public – Dad did however and had his own bands at one time – this is how I came to know the Caruso family – but he said Andy was the best piano teacher he ever knew. Apparently Andy had shown Dad a few tricks on the keyboard. Dad always had a ton of girls around him when he played. One of them was to become my Mother. (SMILE). Good parents. I still miss them. Anyway. Andy was a slim old gentleman, with white hair, and yes, he had a white bandage over his throat. Like I said – he swallowed air to speak. He always looked so straight and dignified in his white coat. He was a nice man, a good barber – when Dad spent some time in the hospital – Crozer - Andy would come in and cut his hair. They had been friends since they were kids. Both gone now, sadly. To a no name who wrote “Man, I'm in the mood for a LaSpada's Italian hoagie with mayo, I like it that way!” HA! HA! To MY tiny, little mind, putting mayo on a hoagie is like putting catsup on a filet mignon. But this is JUST how my Dad liked his hoagies – with mayo. We first used to get them from Irene’s hoagie shop around 11thand Kerlin – on the corner. She was a Polish lady who ran a good store. Forget her last name. Dad always ordered mayo on his hoagie. Whatever. For me - I like “salt, sage and oil” but to each his own. Dad used to like mayo on his cheesesteaks too. I shudder to think about THAT one but I was always a “too each his own” type person so whatever. Memories, eh? And here’s my two cents worth on the Great Hoagie Debate here – and it’s worth about two cents – maybe less. Three words – Phil and Jim’s. Had them all in Chester and points beyond – I traveled a lot at one time and out west they call them either “submarines” or “torpedoes” and they put bologna on them – BOLOGNA!. It’s basically a bologna sandwich in some areas. Some cheese, tomatoes and lettuce – OK. But mostly bologna and cheese. Hell, and I thought MAYO was weird! But Phil and Jim’s was the best to me. With “salt, sage and oil”. And lots of hot peppers. Anyway. As always – my best to everyone on the Historic Chester PA page. And to Mr. John Bullock – you have no idea, sir, how much your efforts are appreciated. I look forward to meeting you someday and shaking your hand. You have done a great deal for a good many people. God Bless.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 14:09:29
Kyle: http://www.oldchesterpa.com/neighbors_trainer_rocks.htm
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Phoenix, Arizona
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 13:38:10
With deep regret, really deep regret, this is the last message/story/memory I will post here. I have thoroughly enjoyed being on this board and all the truly wonderful old friends and new warm friendships I have made here.
Apparently, some of my messages are misinterpreted and anger people, all of which have been soothed, overcome and we went on to new subjects, etc. However, the post by DJM, who is a male by the way and doesn’t want his name disclosed, has chosen to slander me and in essence, called me a liar. He has his own reasons for doing this, which I will not go into, but it is almost impossible to defend yourself against lies, one of the biggest inhumanities to man, in my way of thinking.
All that I said regarding my schooling and financial conditions at home were true. Anyone can check public school records from Rez and get information on me. In high school, I did not do that well. DJM did not live in my house during my high school years, nor did we see each other during that time, so he has no idea what caused my switch from ND to CHS. My mother wanted me to quit school and work full-time. An alternative was reached. Switch to CHS and work part-time, which I did. I would sign an affidavit or swear to anyone that I have never lied in any post - mistaken at times, but never purposely lied. However, I still feel there will be people who will not believe a word I say, so to avoid “cluttering up” the board with negatives, I would rather just leave.
Also, I have deep respect for all the hard work and money John Bullock invests in this site and I cringe every time it is used to attack.
I hope you have enjoyed some of the many memories I have posted here and I have given you a laugh or two. However, in order to keep things peaceful and hopefully working in the manner intended, goodbye and may God bless this site and John Bullock every day.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 13:33:09
Interesting video about the Delaware Estuary
http://www.greenworks.tv/delawareestuary/
Name: kyle
Email:
Residing: west chester
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 13:21:14
Where are the Trainer rocks pics? What an adventure that was, crossing them on the way to Trainer pool. And if there was anyone there turning around and taking the long way to the pool past "bed bug row". No offense intended but everyone called them that!
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 13:20:26
Jerry S: I remember my father used to go to this barber when I was a kid and he took me once in a while to get my hair cut, too. But most of the time my mom cut it. But I remember this guy had a piece of white cloth covering his throat and talked funny. I never knew what was wrong with him until I got older. It was near the Goodwill firehouse. Would this happen to be the same barbershop?
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 11:52:02
Their are a lot of wonderful memories posted in here, thanks to John, If you don't like it, pass by it. Don't use all of John's space for negative thoughts. Just listen to yourselves, forget it and move on.
Name: Shirley
Email:
Residing: DE
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 08:15:29
The reunion was held at Tri State Sports but we all know it as the Sun Center.
Name: C.
Email:
Residing:
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 06:06:41
Lee: What did not show up on the pictures was all the graffiti. Not a rock missed..almost not a inch missed...Happy to have been able to awaken a memory....thats what this sites all about...
Name: sang soon.lee
Email: sslee@yahoo.co.kr
Residing: seoul korea
Date: 26 Aug 2002
Time: 06:06:20
It gave me great pleasure to meet geoge michael pen club 'The vegie tale' I love geoge michael I wish geoge michael home adress please have my e-mail thank you very much dear pen club
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 23:54:58
Man, I'm in the mood for a LaSpada's Italian hoagie with mayo, I like it that way!
Name: DonnaLewis
Email: AquarianWoman@msn.com
Residing: Brookhaven
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 23:52:28
Caroline, Thank-YOU!
Name: Lee CHS'45
Email: RLBenni@netscape.net
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 23:51:05
TO CAROLINE
Just saw the pictures you made of Trainer Rocks. Don't know how I missed them. Like many others from the West End I spent hours there---my sister lived in Trainer, just across the road from Buckman airport. I remember an old abandoned plant, close to where the water ran under Ridge Road. I don't know what they manufactured there but I heard other kids say that it used to be a soap factory. I think that old plant was the builder of the row homes the kids called "Bedbug Row". BTW, the Park you mentioned is named for Henry Johnson, a really nice guy who was Mayor of Trainer back in the '70s.
Thanks for the memories
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 23:17:42
There are a few non anonymous phonies too.
Name: Not a rez alumni
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 23:13:29
Shirley,
Wonderful pictures of everyone having a grand time at the successful Rez reunion. The proof is in the pictures.
Congratulations to all who put it all together.
Having 700 people attend was certainly a big coordinating job. You all have to be commended.
Could some please post where it was held. Accommadating 700 people is quite an achievement.
Thanks
Name: Shirley Lambert
Email:
Residing: DE
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 21:42:04
If ya wanna see the happy smiley people of the Rez Reunion go here at http://www.rezalumni.com/reunionpics.htm
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 21:24:47
Harvey, you seem like a nice guy. Pat has always had nice things to say about you. Probably why you say you prefer her postings. But you must admit she is pretty critical and hurtful to people on a message board that is supposed to be for memories.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 21:16:43
Personally I prefer Patricia to most of you annonymous phonies.
Name: djm
Email:
Residing: myrtle beach,sc
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 21:08:33
Pidipat...You were the person that introduced this site to me and since I've been reading it, I swore that I would never enter into any converstions on this website. But there have recently been some misconceptions that I would like to respond to (never end a sentence with a preposition, right?). First, I went to school with you at Rez and you were not one of the top scholars, at least from sixth through eigth grades. After Rez, I do not know how you did at Notre Dame or Chester High but I'd be willing to bet that you have exaggerated a bit. And the too poor to pay for Notre Dame, I don't believe that either. Hell, we lived in Mc Caffrey and you lived in Buckman (the high rent district back then). Jack Waldron had a scholarship to St. Joes and then went to Notre Dame and became a professor at St. Joes. I really think that you spend too much time living in the past and remembering things that only you can remember. You should really try reading or watching PBS or like someone else said, volunteering.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 20:58:57
Kay Stenzel...This looks promising
http://www.crds.edu/abhs/default.htm
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 20:46:35
Isn't it ironic that Pat challenges the negative posters?? Isn't she the person who posted the original negative remark about the REZ reunion?? Maybe she is what Chester needs for its comeback. Somebody like Pat with all her brains who can criticize people's grammar and spelling and knows the right way of doing everything. Maybe she should move back to Chester and become mayor. Pat seems to know everything about everything. Maybe she should put all those brains of hers to some good use for a change. Isn't she so humble?? Glad she informed us all that there was at least one smart person who came out of Chester.
Name: Kay Stenzel
Email: roeroe5518"no spam"@houston.rr.com
Residing: Santa Fe, Texas
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 20:33:26
Trying to find a "list" of students around 1900; specifically my grandfather, James Willis Jeffries. His wife was also enrolled - Alma Jeffries. He became a minister mostly in Mo and was Chaplain in the Mo House of Reps in Jefferson City. Does anyone know how I can contact Crozier Theological Seminary directly? Thanks!!! Kay
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 19:31:53
Nicely done: http://www.rezalumni.com/
Name: Bob Blisard
Email: Bob31854@aol.com
Residing: DE
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 19:01:18
Rezzers,
This is to All 144 0f you who ordered Reunion Shirts at the Reunion, I'm here to say the orders have been placed and should be in my hands within a week. I hope to be able to hand them out after the holiday. I will let all know when and where. Please if you ordered it be sure to pick it up. Maybe we will have one big shirt party.lol Hope to see and hear from you all soon. Also, if anyone else wishes to order a shirt you may do so by Sending a Check payable to REZALUMNI for $10.00 to
Marie Borky Kokoska 3612 Deepwater Lane Brookhaven,Pa.19015
Be sure to add your SIZE in the MEMO. i'LL BE SEEING YOU ALL SOON AND HAVE A BLESSED AND SAFE WEEKEND.
Bob Blisard
Name: Shirley Lambert
Email: rezalumni@rezalumni.com
Residing: DE
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 18:50:36
Hi all, got some reunion pics on the site now...go to www.rezalumni.com
More to follow, thanks for the awesome memories, can't wait till we do it again next year!
Love ya!
P.S. - Shirley Robinson I sent Dave Kasarsky a message for you. He should be in contact with you directly!
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 18:33:00
Kate, how are you doing? How is your son doing? You know its gotten to the point that I can't remember any of the things that I used too. It seems that everyone gets old, doesn't it. The time rolls around for all of us, noboddy missed. We will see what happens. You know Kate, they used to call my grandmother Kate all the time, and I still don't know why, her name was Marion.Stay healthy and safe Kate.
Florence
Name: PAT
Email:
Residing: PA
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 18:11:25
Practice what you preach. Who wants to hear any more about Arizona, England, and all the other trivial nonsense? Ever since this site started this one individual thinks she is the leader of the gang. She monopolizes with monotonus unintersting trivia. I stopped posting a while back and occassionaly log on to see if anything new is going on. Same old by the same old.
It's not the no names but the posted name who presents the controversies. As far as the Rez reunion, had she been on the committee, she would have chewed the old Prospect Park woman out by telling her you make your own fun. 699 to 1 had a great time! JEALOUSY! The GREEN EYE MONSTER FROM ARIZONA HAS STRIKED AGAIN. HAS TO HAVE THE LAST SAY!
TOO BAD, IT WAS A GOOD SITE AT ONE TIME, NOW IT'S A ME, ME, I CHALLENGE, I AM ALWAYS RIGHT, POSTING/CHAT BOARD.
This business of the "knowns verses the unknowns and prevailing," sounds like a 2nd graders recess game. "I'm goanna punish you because you refuse to post your name" LOL ROTFLMAO
BTW, YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO CORRECT MY SPELLING, PUNCTUATION AND GRAMMAR. IT WILL GIVE YOU SOMETHING ELSE BETTER TO DO. BETTER YET, TRY KNITTING.
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing: Panama City Beach, Fl.
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 17:52:05
Florence, Nice to see your wisdom on this site, you are so right.
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 16:17:58
I forgot one
Let their be peace on earth
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 15:26:09
Let it be, let it be
Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away
yesterday when I was young, there so many songs to be sung
Come on, we all need each other
To have a friend and be a friend, is what makes life worth while.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 15:06:55
i see the bickering still goes on, its not just that no name character, i see the regulars are still at it, how cowardly....i will continue to stay away from here because i have no time to read all the petty coments all you ADULTS leave for one another...too bad
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 15:02:24
well, i see that no name idiot is back...just ignore that retart and lets hope he will go away...i had stopped coming here because of that no name loser.. looks like he still has no life.....
Name: C.
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 14:11:33
I meant to say that Geo. Malick, the person that set the chat room up and kept it going died recently...darn this computer, keeps erasing my thoughts.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 14:10:22
Donna: No, the Chat room closed because of the amount of people not entering. Also the person (Geo. Malick) died recently.
Name: Donna
Email:
Residing: Brookhaven
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 13:40:28
is there anyone out here that can get past all the petty bickering back and forth and please answer my question I asked a few days ago, I was wondering is there still a Chester Chat place or Notre Dame nite or west end nite like their used to be?
Name: Scott Carter
Email: scottcarter3@aol.com
Residing: Wallingford
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 12:45:22
This is my first time on this web site. I think it is absolutely fascinating. I am currently piecing together a photgraphic history of Chester and I found something interesting. When I clicked on the old "What Chester Makes Makes Chester" sign of this website I saw that the structure was built in 1926 and that there was a contest to come up with the slogan. I have a book about Chester from 1914 and a slogan similar to "What Chester Makes Makes Chester" is on the second page! 13 years before the sign was erected. I thought this was sort of strange. Please e-mail if someone has further information. Thanks.
Name: Tracy LyonsKline
Email: kaky412@aol.com
Residing: Newark,DE
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 01:53:07
Well, I thought I would lighten up things a little bit, it got to heated. I grew up until I was 13 on 18th & Providence ave (east end). My Dad cut the hedges and cut grass at the Church across the street ( I think it was a protestant church). I used to go there during Bible school in the summer. In those days nobody cared what you did for a living, you just took care of your family. He used to cook breakfast for us when we attended Mass at St. Roberts.
Well, thought I would share that happy moment. Since everyone else has bad things to talk about.
Have fun-this is what this site is all about.
Tracy Lyons Kline
Name: Shirley Robertson
Email: shirl38"nospam"@rcn.com
Residing: Delaware
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 00:20:35
Shirley Lambert. Sorry about the confusion, but I didn`t know how to get in touch with Dave Kasarsky. If you would pass on the information, I would really appreciate it. Thank you,
Name: Caroline
Email: carpete@verizon.net
Residing:
Date: 25 Aug 2002
Time: 00:17:22
Frankly I don't think anyone should have to defend him or herself for an opinion or post. If all this energy that is spent on trying to figure out what was meant by this or that word -which is written --were put in to remembering some of the great things that happened in our youth in Chester, this Message board would again come alive with memories. It only takes one memory to refresh our fading thoughts.
The cost of this Message board for the webmaster is not inexpensive and the updating of the "What's new" section is not an easy job. it is time consuming. John has a life outside of Oldchesterpa. But "oldchesterpa" has grown to such proportions that it is becoming his full time job. Each time something new is added it adds to the cost of the web site. Many Volunteers have given their time to keep this site alive and filled with information that is not only a part of your history and life in Chester, but can be part of your "family Tree". Where else can you find such vivid notes on your childhood. Where else can you sit in your armchairs and find all you need to about your old hometown. The cost of this website comes from John's pocket and the items he has available through
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/store.htm
Earlier I posted a message regarding Merchant Ships ....I have received not less then 10 emails from people with regard to this post. That’s what the board is about. It is a portal to the Past and Present..
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 22:31:31
And, Caroline - in today's history - August 24, we begin the battle of the anonymous v. the knowns. With any luck, the "knowns" will prevail, and it will last no longer than 2 days. It's liable to be more fierce than the battle of the Eastern Solomons, but no casualties.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 22:23:43
Today in Navel History:
August 24
1942 - Carrier aircraft begin 2-day Battle of Eastern Solomons.
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 22:23:29
Hey Jocko - another bad assumption. I did go to Notre Dame and at the top of my class, I might add. And just prior to graduation from Rez, I was sent to Philadelphia to try for a scholarship based on my grades. Unfortunately, I was not granted that - no Rez kid received it that year, except our classmate John Waldron who did receive a scholorship to Notre Dame University later on. As I understand it, his test scores have NEVER been equalled - to this day. I am very proud to have known John personally, because I highly respect intelligence. But don't kid yourself, I was darn smart. No brag/fact! I come from a poor family with a working mother and nobody to help me, so I have worked for everything I have, and I thank God for my brain. I Transferred to Chester High in my junior year for financial reasons. I had to take a job after school to help out at home. And, this was no fun because I could not attend a lot of the extracurricular activities there; basketball, drama, etc.
Any more false assumptions? With your spelling, punctuation, etc., I'm surprised you graduated at all. You use your own language - "heah papt" - what kind of language is that? The only way I knew you meant me was Rez 46 - at least you got that right - somewhat right - should be '46.
I feel I must respond to one more item. My friend cannot "speak/post" for herself because she has no computer, and is not interested in either learning or using one. I keep begging her to do this, but she keeps putting it off. Some folks are just not interested in doing this, and I respect her decision.
Deaf One - you are absolutely correct. Everytime, I post and am ganged up on - almost all the time - readership does go up. People do love controversy, don't they? All you have to do is look at the top of this page to the rolling "number".
I hereby challenge every anonymous/negative poster to post something positive and of interest to all. I challenge you. If you do not respond to this challenge, then it is obvious, you have nothing positive to add. Prove yourself.
Name: jocko chs 52
Email:
Residing: de
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 20:45:36
heah papt from rez 46 how come you didn t go to Notre Dame instead of CHS?
Name: The Deaf One
Email:
Residing: Southern MD
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 20:18:08
Wow, the boards are alive. Been awhile since someones stirred up somehting. Heck it makes for some interesting reading. Should call this "As the Chester Turns"....LOL
Name: Kph
Email:
Residing: PA
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 19:27:38
Pat, for a senior , you sure do need to grow up. You don't know when to stop and act your age, now do you? You don't deserve the respect that you request. No wonder people are always attacking you. You never stop!
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 19:05:01
Now, Now, I see that you are back at it again - won't let go with your anonymous criticisms. Until you start posting thoughts that deserve looking "up to"; you will be talked "down to".
Name: A Rezzer
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 18:35:09
Can we all just stop please?
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 18:31:56
Pat, please go volunteer for a hospital or some other place so that you may get off line here!
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 18:24:47
Pat, YOU posted your friends feelings. If not for you, there would be no reason to defend her. Next time let your friend speak for herself. We all understand what post you were replying to also and would appreciate not being talked down to. Might I suggest you take some of your own advice and drop it already and talk about the things you mention in your post. I only see you making things worse.
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 18:21:14
P.S. - It would also be an honor to some of us grandparents to read here the loving memories our grandchildren have of us. What a wonderful birthday present or any holiday, that would be for your grandparent - to see you write on a public forum how you remember and love them.
Remember also that what is posted here can be copied and printed.
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 18:15:55
TO: Jerry Spevak. Thanks Jerry for your fond memories and perhaps motivating others to likewise. You might consider posting some memories of your dear grandparents, how they lived, what they cooked, furniture in the house, anything to bring back those "memories". Gotta love it!
Name: Jerry spevak
Email: eaglespiv@aol.com
Residing: north east phila
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 16:41:04
My grandfather,al buffano and my uncle andy were the proprieters of al barber shop on 17th and providence ave.I rememember going there many times on the bus and getting pop to cut my hair&afterwards walking down to brown st in sun village were i would wait for my grandfather to get home ,usually with a special treat,but most of all ,the best treat was just spending time at my grandparents home and expierencing all their love. miss you, grandson jerry
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 16:29:27
If those of you who remain anonymous but critical would read the first entry about the reunion, MAYBE you would understand that I was replying to Harvey's post about how great he understood the reunion was. I became very interested because my friend thought otherwise and I asked where Harvey found that information because it was contradictory to what I heard and it had saddened me.
That was the only time I posted about the reunion and was delighted to know that it was indeed a great success and my friend's experience lay in her own perspective. I would not have posted anything further until my friend was personally attacked for her feelings. That is now settled, and it would be better for all, if you realize the facts and stop criticizing, where there is nothing to criticize. At one point, I even said that I was very glad that the reunion was a huge success and I will tell my friend - and I know she too will be happy to hear that.
I have suggested many times that you use this board to post your memories of growing up in Chester (I think this is one reason for this site), but you don't. Next time you feel this overwhelming desire to criticize, change your thinking to - "what can I post of interest to my generation about my earlier life and times in Chester? You're more than likely apt to start a whole bunch of posts about the same thing, and get a good feeling about what you have done. I cannot, as much as I have tried to figure it out, understand why you enjoy criticizing others. Put your sneers and growls in your hip pocket, and a smile on your face and even the world will look different to you.
Name: MC
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 15:49:40
To Pat: You asked what better word to describe your friend's remarks regarding the REZ reunion would I have used other than "uncomplimentary." I would have kept my mouth shut and not feel compelled to mention anything negative to describe an event that many people put so much hard work into and that so many people enjoyed.
Name:
Email: R2
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 15:00:46
To no name, you are annoying so why are you allowed to post? free speech, thank you very much, equality, thank you very much, no one cares if you don't like certain people who post hear...
Name: Shirley Lambert
Email:
Residing: Delaware
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 11:51:29
To the person who wrote to me: Is your name Shirley as well or are you writing to me? I noticed that in the Name section you put Shirley and you live in Delaware....perhaps I am confused but anywho....I don't know if Dave is related I will forward your message to Dave but first I need to know who you are so that he may get in touch with you. Regards. Shirley L.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 09:54:18
See John's busy again making the download time faster for this site...by the way, on the Rez link, did a spark rekindle?
Who is the phantom that writes a forbidden love wish.
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/rez_all_reunion.htm
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 09:42:09
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 09:18:31
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN BLOCK COMMENTS THAT ARE SENT IN BY PAT,I THINK SHE DOESNT HAVE ANYTHIG TO DO BUT STIR UP THE POT!!!!!SHE IS VERY ANNOYING!!
Name: Caroline
Email: carpete@verizon.net
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 08:17:42
RE: Merchant Ships from the Chester Area. I am looking for information on the "Pacific Sun" ...it was built at Sun Ship and was a tanker...I have pictures of the ship during WWII with unID'd mates. Also photos of the crew of the Eugene V. Thayer. Not sure what year the Thayer pictures were taken but since the ship was sunk in 1942 I would assume that there were before that time. Don't know if the Thayer was built at Sun, but had to ship out from the Oil depots in Hook or Wilmington.
http://www.armed-guard.com/eugenevr.jpg
Since my uncle shipped out of Marcus Hook, (Gulf, Sinclair, Sun) I would assume many of these people are from this area.
Please email me regarding any information you might remember. I'd greatly appreciate it. Once compiled, I will add to John's web site.
Name: Old Rez Alumni
Email:
Residing:
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 01:22:41
There she goes again. Keep up the good work, Piddi-Pat. Your sure know how to win friends & influence people. Try Dale Carnegie...
Name: Shirley
Email:
Residing: Delaware
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 00:53:12
Shirley Lambert, you mentioned a Dave Kasarsky in your writing. My half sister, Helen, married a Timothy Kasarsky in Chester, Pa, they had three children, Nancy, Bonnie and Shirley. The girls would be in their 60` by now. Could Dave Kasarsky be related to them? Thank you for any information you can give me. Shirley
Name: Joseph Mattie
Email:
Residing: Parkside
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 00:48:24
Rez re-union....Does anyone who attended remember a classmate Frankie DiTella? JM
Name: Hal Lloyd
Email: hm1979@gci.net
Residing: Alaska
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 00:26:22
Anyone remember the William Penn Projects...I lived there till I was 11 in 69...My parents had storys of life there before my time when it was ...ummm more genteel.... Anyway if anyone has storys of living there in the 60s or earlier would love to hear it.
Name: DonnaLewis
Email:
Residing: Brookhaven
Date: 24 Aug 2002
Time: 00:15:28
hey you guys I was wondering is there no more Chester Chat rooms? Is there still a west end nite or Notre Dame nite or is it no more?
Name: DonnaMarieLewis
Email: AquarianWoman@msn.com
Residing: Brookhaven
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 23:58:00
Man, I wish there was some good stuff here to read.Like some funny old times growing up in the streets of Chester or some good stuff about when we were in school or something,all this negativity YUCK! How come people just can't get along,life is SO SHORT.... trust me it is... let's spend it happy,joyous and free,talk to each other with respect and Love your neighbor!
Name: trisha
Email:
Residing: middletown
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 23:41:11
to pat....i do not think you have a friend in prospect park, you just made that up....
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 21:02:47
TRISH: I had a feeling you were Bill's daughter and Bill was one of my very favorite people growing up in Buckman Village. I had heard he lost a leg and when you hear things like that about someone you knew so well and respected, you feel the same loss, and I did. Had I known where to contact him, I would have written him and also to discuss the loss of a mutual friend, Butch McGinn (as you know, they were life-long buddies). I also know that Bill would have let me know Butch had passed away, had he known where to reach me. Also, the loss of John - I felt that deeply. I understand he was staying with your dad when he passed away. Now, Bill is the only surviving sibling and he is the oldest.
You dad, as I understand it, was also very active at Rez with the little league, etc.; did some great work with the kids. What a guy! But somehow I always knew Bill was a special type fellow. Please give him my love and one thing he never knew, I always thought he had the deepest, cutest dimples I've ever seen - even when he wasn't smiling, the dimples were always there.
It's always so nice to be in touch and know where our friends are. And, you can tell Bill that I gave you hell for what I considered uncalled for remarks!!! He'll laugh.
Name: A Rez Alumni
Email:
Residing:
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 14:34:59
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but since you did not attend this reunion Pat, maybe you should have kept your comments to yourself since they have obviously not come from your own experience of the event. Next time, let your friend speak for herself. If your are a Rez alumni, then please try to attend our reunion next year and experience this wonderful event for yourself. You surely won't regret the trip. We would love to have you join us.
Name: A Rez Alumni
Email:
Residing:
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 14:34:08
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but since you did not attend this reunion Pat, maybe you should have kept your comments to yourself since they have obviously not come from your own experience of the event. Next time, let your friend speak for herself. If your are a Rez alumni, then please try to attend our reunion next year and experience this wonderful event for yourself. You surely won't regret the trip. We would love to have you join us.
Name: Sheree (Austin) McGowan
Email: Picabostow@hotmail.com
Residing: Ohio
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 14:04:01
Here's a thought Pat, maybe your friend should just be thankful she is here on earth to be able to attend such an event
Name: old timer
Email:
Residing:
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 13:23:53
Pat get a life and quit the gossip....I am a heck of a lot older than you and had a great time at the reunion. It was a little warm but I watched and prepared for the weather, like all of us senior citizens do! Come on, you weren't even there and yet you choose to post negatively! Perhaps you should check out what the other 699 of us had to say Tsk...Tsk....May the good Lord be with you!
Name: Trish
Email:
Residing: Glen Mills
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 12:08:16
Pat McFadden, Sorry to of "Opened this Box" But someone would of. I am learning alot about words in messages this is very new to me.My son knows more then I do. And yes I am Bill's daughter and I brought my father to the reunion he walks with a walker do to the loss of one leg.And yes he discovered that there where not many from his class of 41 maybe 5 present.And maybe music was different.And maybe he would of liked something different or comfortable but he enjoyed all the day gave him anyway the best he could it had been a long time since he had seen alot of these families and friends.And I am very proud of who I am and where I come from just as my father is. With all said may we go away with knowing that words are words until you know there context.Sorry For My Words.
Name: Trish
Email: Trish7142@Comcast.net
Residing: Glen Mills
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 11:19:25
With the grace of god I would not of responded to just a few words if I had known this was going to take place. But some one would of I just did before them. Please lets place all said behind them with some understanding of our words and forgive all.Because I do not know what may of gone on for this person in the past or on this day.And I am SORRY I OPENED THIS BOX.The committee done great for there first time and will only get greater with everyones support and input. Lets go back to nice responses to a great day .I appoligize for any thing written to affend,I was only on the defence for the 1ST and hopefully not the last of a great day.
Name: ex-rezzer
Email:
Residing:
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 11:03:09
Just wanted to drop a line in regard to all the brouhaha over the rez reunion. If someone wants to make some remark that seems inflammatory, I would just ignore it. More importantly, there was an article in the Daily Times about a girl who has leukemia. A lot of people can help her and people just like her who have that disease just by donating blood. What could help even more, you can donate blood platelets. Platelets can only be donated by about half of the population, due to the absence of certain viruses in a person's blood. Both of these processes are very safe, and take about an two hours a month to do, and take up less stress than fighting about who said what to whom. So, remember, its not nice to fight.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 23 Aug 2002
Time: 00:04:08
To MC: Perhaps my use of the word "uncomplimentary" was not wise, but a better word I can't think of right now. I did not, nor want to go into detail and I did not. I apologize if you read other meanings into the word, but that happens when you write. I can certainly appreciate the hard work that goes into this type of a celebration and wanting it to turn out terrific for everyone, and I do not think I said anything "hurtful" to those whose endeavors contributed so much. That was not and still is not my intent. I did not know it went from 150 to 700 in such a short time; I'm sure my friend didn't know that either - but rain or shine, she will attend anything having to do with her schools, old friends, family, etc.
So, as someone said one time, "Before you go to the boss with a problem, have a solution in mind." So, what better word would you have used?
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 23:46:37
To: Shirley Lambert: I sincerly appreciate your post regarding my dear and most loving friend who is the most supportive person I know when it comes to Rez, Notre Dame, Buckman Village, her parents, her siblings and most of all her six beautiful and highly intelligent children. each of whom has contributed, not only to the Chester community, but the nation as a whole, and all six of whom she raised alone after the loss of her husband when the youngest was still in diapers.
I would have not responded at all to the happy posts regarding the reunion had it not been for the remark, "felt compelled to discribe REZ Event with Uncomplimentry Things. You Must Of Been Unhappy Then And May Still Be. That is ok there always is someone you just can't . . ."
She did not feel "compelled" for one thing; she was merely telling me about it during the course of our long conversation regarding many other things besides the reunion; then the suppositions about her happiness or unhappiness (believe me, she was one of the happiest kids in school) was completely uncalled for. "Unhappy then; unhappy now!!" These are unncessary and cruel statements for anyone of a younger generation to make regarding someone who shares the same background, but different generation.
As part of your future plans, you might consider a special event during the reunion "honoring" those graduates still around from the earlier years - perhaps even setting aside a room somewhere where they can all meet and then giving them the respect they deserve by calling upon them one by one to appear "on stage". Then, you would have true "defense of siblings and OUR roots!!!
In all due respect to the younger generations, I submit my feelings and suggestions - in the honor of Resurrection of our Lord school and church - no one individual, but all of us collectively.
Name: DonnaMarieLewis
Email: AquarianWoman@msn.com
Residing: Brookhaven
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 23:22:06
In today's daily times there was a sad but true article of a guy a real good guy who was born and raised in Chester. He went to Rez for 8 years and St.James for 4 years. The article is in the pull-out section of Champs,Charity Classic . He's my baby brother Joey and I was hoping that whoever prays will take the time to pray for Joey and his family. Thanks Us Chesterites have to stick together.
Name: MC
Email:
Residing:
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 23:12:29
TO Pat, The way you phrased your original message was that your friend had some uncomplimentary remarks about the REZ reunion. To me and probably others the use of the word uncomplimentary sounds like she was not happy with the way the night was organized. I am not from REZ nor did I go to the reunion. But I have been on the organizing end of events and I know that no matter what you do you can't please everyone. I always thought that when volunteers put such hard work into something out of the goodness of their heart, that people should keep words like uncomplimentary to themselves and certainly not utter them on a message board that is read by these organizers. It is hurtful to those people who did all that hard work. It seems to me that your original comment had nothing to do with not seeing familiar faces at the reunion and comments such as this could only be hurtful.
Name: Shirley Lambert
Email: rezalumni@rezalumni.com
Residing: Delaware
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 23:10:14
Dear Pat:
As part of the Rez Alumni Committee I would like to sincerely apologize to your friend who suffered from heat exhaustion that day. I know who you are talking about because Dave Kasarsky and myself personally offered her water and cool towels but she just wanted to leave. She did not stay very long at our event (possibly an hour). Her family was accomodating her so there wasn't much for us to do for her.
We also had air conditioning in the larger part of the building if people wanted to get out of the heat. We also had access to the pool, which alot of folks enjoyed!
Yes, we have some things we need to work on for future events. This was our first event and I believe it was a huge success for many with many more good memories to follow!
As for Trish's comments, Trish is a kind person who would do anything for anyone. She is just defending her roots like all good siblings do in a family!
All of us on the REZ Committee truly appreciate the support that the Alumni have given us! We can't wait to do it again!
P.S. - Constructive criticism is always welcomed by us!
Love ya all!
Shirley, Matty, Bob, Helen, Marie, Dave, Linda, Mary and Karen
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 21:00:34
In defense of my friend from Prospect Park who was disappointed in the event, I ask that you not make unkind remarks about her opinion of the reunion. No one loved that school more than she did and when it closed she was generous enough to send me a wonderful sweatshirt with "The Lord is Risen" and HIM carrying his cross on the front in green, and Chester, PA on the back. This was one of the memorabilia they were selling when it closed. Everytime I wear it people here in Phoenix stop and ask about it. Had it more than 10 years now; they even sold memorabilia of the same good "quality" as the people they graduated every year.
Our class graduated from Rez in 1946 - quite a few years earlier than 1965-85, and consequently, we have lost many dear classmates through death or present serious illnesses. When you attend a "reunion" of an alma mater, it's heartbreaking to not see familiar faces. She also suffered from the heat of that day, and if there was music, it was probably not "our day" music; so age, heat and other factors can be debilitating to we seniors. So, forgive her because I will tell her how much enjoyment all the "younger generations" had and I'm sure that will make her happy. She did love Rez, as did I with all the wonderful carefree school day memories. And, incidently, Trish Waldron, if you are related to the Waldrons from Buckman Village (Bill, John and Artie) these boys were part of our lives, especially John, our brilliant classmate (now deceased as is Artie) at Rez. If you are a relative, my friend and I are a part of your heritage.
Tolerance of those who went before you and possibly made the path easier and better should be respected as you would like to be respected when you are a senior citizen.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 20:58:58
John B:
I am happy to see that you have updated the "oldchesterpa" web family about our reunion ---spread the word.
...http://www.oldchesterpa.com/fall2001_gettogether.htm
Your suggestion to bring items for the Salvation Army is a SHARING that is a sign of love for the less fortunate. For those that will not be able to attend and would like to make a donation to show support for your website, is there a address such an offering can be sent?
And what is John's sauce like....you know I will be at the reunion if for nothing else but to get some of that famous sauce on the hot dogs the youth group will have available for us. What a lovely way for the kids to be part of a happening. A donation for a lunch is a marvelous idea. And you know from the posts here lately we love our food.
Name: Lois (Rumbel) Revenaugh
Email: L"no spam" revenau@cris.com
Residing: Flint, Michigan
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 17:11:42
At one time I lived at the corner of 14th and Edgemont Ave. This week I am in the area for a family reunion. As my brother and I drive around the old neighborhood (after being gone for 40 years) I am curious about some of the old buildings that Weidner College now use as frat houses. Also the history of the DeShong Park and musuem.
Lois
Name: Jim Mc Kinney(Jamo)
Email: Decardconn@aol.com
Residing: Wilmington De
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 16:42:23
I went To William Penn not Rez but i received a call and stopped by anyway. I didnt get there till around 5 But quite a few people were still there. From what i saw and everyone was saying they had a terrific time. I only wish i had gone earlier but hey next time. maybe you can include everyone from the west end.Id love to see the people i heard i missed Whoever put the reunion on did a great job I commend your efforts and look forward to getting there early next time I allso want to mention that Joe McHale Came the furthest All the way from California! later west enders Jamo
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 15:50:07
Pat, Your best friend must be blind not to have seen the love and the joy on Saturday. To have 700 people show up from all over the country is a tribute to what that school meant to all of us. It WAS a blast and i'm sorry for anyone who has to rain on such a beautiful parade!!!!!!!!!!
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 13:12:32
For a reunion that was pulled together in less than 5 months for the entire alumni of "Rez", it could not have been better. The turnout was amazing. Many thanks go out to those that accompished this task. Being able to reunite with classmates, friends, family and neighbors left everyone with a big smile on their face and in their heart long after it ended. The memories of growing up in Chester are priceless. Aug. 17, 2002 will now join those memories.
Name: rezzer
Email:
Residing: west chester
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 11:41:18
How could anyone not have fun at a friends and family reunion? If it was a little disorganized that probably owes to the fact that the event snowballed from 150 to 700 in about three weeks. We'll all do it again and hopefully break 1,000 next time.
Name: Trish Waldron
Email: Trish7142@comcast.net
Residing: Glen Mills
Date: 22 Aug 2002
Time: 09:45:35
I Would Like to Thank All Involved in the Rez Reunion The Team Who Orginized the event ,to all who attended. SORRY to Ms Prospect Park that you felt compelled to discribe REZ Event with Uncomplimentry Things.You Must Of Been Unhappy Then And May Still Be.That is ok there always is someone you just can't satisfy.But in all as you can see it was the" BEST FOR ALL WHO ATTENDED" And next time will be Greater.Proud of my roots Trish
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 23:46:13
Everyone had a blast at the "Rez" reunion on Aug. 17th. Check out...Reunions/ Resurrection of Our Lord & also 1965-1985 & all classes. All those posts show that a great time was had by all.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 21:25:41
Boy that Rez. reunion must have been something else, 700 people to show at a reunion must be some kind of record...Thanks to this oldchesterpa site it was possible...
Name: Mike Garvey
Email: chestrchevy19061@hotmail
Residing: Trainer
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 20:36:04
Pat, We had about 700 people at the REZ reunion and what a blast. anyone that did not have a good time .DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A GOOD TIME. It was GREAT. Food Fun Family Friends. I want to Thank This web site for allowing us to keep in touch with eveyone we grew up with.
Mike Garvey 1007 Booth ST Chester Pa, 19013
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 19:59:16
Bud H: Yes it was Garfield avenue. And the food was very good..It had to be or we would not have brought the pot every Friday for dinner. I think I remember the waitress was also the waitress at the Yellow Bowl in Chester, maybe her name was Jean (?)...Was that a "SpeakEasy"?
Name: Ray Agent
Email: rayagent@earthlink.net
Residing: near Claymont
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 17:20:22
Re Linvilla Orchards - The real story is about how the neighbors and community as a whole have responded to this tragedy. Besides all kinds of manpower, they have been lending all types of equipment including a big earth mover with owner attached. Tents and all kinds of tables and tools as well as selling supplies have been provided by these nice people and it is now business as usual. Its nice to hear a story about people doing good things for a change. Ray
Name: Don H CHS 54
Email:
Residing:
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 17:14:03
To Peter Krasowski I also remember Buddy's on 3rd and Engle and passed it every day on the way to school (Dewey Mann).I think the owner's last name was Milioto.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 16:03:06
For those that loved visiting Linville Orchards, Bill Crystle has shared some action photos of the fire that recently destroyed our local Historical Octogan Barn...Thank you Bill, Johns site seems to be able to keep ahead of the local news...If you haven't been to What's new section for this link, please click below...
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/tragedies_fire_linvilla.htm
Name: DonnaMarieLewis
Email: AquarianWoman@msn.com
Residing: Brookhaven
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 15:48:57
To our Ole' Humble Webmaster John: I just wanted to Thank-You again for your wonderful idea about keeping Chester alive and for all you have done to develop and keep this site going John. Thanks again to the OldChester, Pa page 2 more of my dearest friends from High School (NotreDame) have found me and contacted me via email, it made my day and was such a pleasant surprise. Most of my Happiest Days were growing up in the West End of Chester and going to Notre Dame.
Name: dave shrop
Email: shropfam@aol
Residing:
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 13:15:07
hey hal, how are you and your brothers rick and ken. still in alaska i see. life must be good. i'll let steve know, yes he is still with the fire dept., batt chief.
Name: "Good Ole Joe"
Email:
Residing: Sacto. CA
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 01:03:57
Hog Island is in the Delaware River not far from Phila. International Airport...I believe at one time, coinciding with it's name, hogs were raised there as cattle were in other areas of the country...The stories I heard from Aunts and Uncles now deceased were that the workers were limited in how often they could get back to the 'mainland' during the work day/week...Someone took 'Italian' sandwiches out to them, and they became known as 'Hoggies'... I believe that after a period of time the 'Italian' sandwiches, at least locally, came to be called 'Hoagies' because of this...Could be true, who knows for sure?
Name: Bev. Fraim
Email: bevtoolady@rcn.com
Residing: Woodlyn,Pa.
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 00:52:46
Bud, No wonder I haven't heard from you ! I didn't even know you were in Wyoming ! LOL We will be going to the cabin for a week Labor Day week.Hope you guys are okay. Love, Bev. P.S. I am Buds " baby " sister.
Name: Hal Lloyd
Email: hm1979@gci.net
Residing: alaska
Date: 21 Aug 2002
Time: 00:10:45
To good ole Joe
That would be interesting if true about Hog island and the workers naming the Sandwich...I grew up in Chester...Where's Hog island and what work was done there??
Name: Terry Owsiay McHugh
Email: tomch1958@aol.com
Residing: Palm Bay, Florida
Date: 20 Aug 2002
Time: 22:56:29
John,
Saturday August 17th over 700 people gathered together at "Sun Center". It was the Rez reunion and it was the greatest day. Without the oldchesterpa website this may never have happened or it may have taken a lot longer. Thank you once again for all you do for old chester!!
Name: Shirley
Email:
Residing:
Date: 20 Aug 2002
Time: 12:05:37
Joan B, my brothers were George and Ronald Robertson. They will be 67 in November, so Ernie should be a bout the same age as they all went to school together. Thanks Shirley
Name: Bud Haynes
Email: KV7G@prodigy.net
Residing: Yuma, AZ
Date: 20 Aug 2002
Time: 11:16:45
To +++, You are correct about "the Cellar", it was on Garfield Ave in Woodlyn and was owned by Larry Matero(???) and his wife. 2 sons Tony and Johnny also worked there, they later owned the "T" Bar on MacDade Blvd. They also had a sister that I think was married to one of the Earo's from the bakery. They served great food, I used to shoot darts, eat Scallopini sandwich's and drank lots of beer there in the late 40's and early 50's. My pal Bill McGuigon lived next door, his brother was Harry McGuigon who was a jockey.
Bud - Yuma, AZ - On vacation in Glenrock, WY
Name: Peter Krasowski
Email: silverdime@aol.com
Residing: Newfield, nj
Date: 20 Aug 2002
Time: 09:25:39
Hello all, reference to "hoagies". I remember Buddy's sandwich shop. It originally was on 3rd and Engle Street and then it moved to 3900 West 9th Street in Trainor. So was Buddy the last name of the people who own it or was their last name something else. I also remember Carol from Buddy...
Name: "Good Ole Joe"
Email:
Residing: Sacramento CA
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 22:47:41
Thanks to Bob Burger for responding to my last posting...Were you in my class at Smedley '49?
My recollection about 'Hoagies' is that the workers on Hog Island needed a big lunch as they could not get off the island as easily as they might have wished...Someone thought of making them 'Italian' sandwiches, these became known as Hoggies...later people just started calling the 'Italian' sandwiches 'Hoagies'....Who knows, could be true...
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 22:21:02
Rez Reunion
1965-1985 & All Classes
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 22:04:46
Harvey - where did you read all the comments about the Rez reunion and the fact that it was a blast? Just last night, I talked on the phone to my best friend who lives in Prospect Park and went to that reunion and she had some very uncomplimentary things to say about it.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 21:05:55
I just read all the comments about the Rez reunion...It must have been a blast!
Name: Hal (harold) Lloyd
Email: hm1979@gci.net
Residing: Alaska
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 18:34:02
Dave Was Mr Gilfillin a portly gentelman with a little grey mustache perhaps. I did split sessions at CHS till the new building opened. I think I was the first graduating class from the new building in 75...If your the Dave Shrop---- I suspect you are, Your brother Steve shared the same public speaking class with me. Give Steve my e mail if you would, and tell him to drop me a line. Does he still work for the fire department? Hal Lloyd (harold)
Name:
Email: Lee CHS'45
Residing:
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 15:31:57
Re: All the great commentary on Chester "Hoagies"
I can remember, in the early-to-mid 30's, walking with my older sister from our home on Reaney St to Dicostanza's on Third St to buy "Italian Sandwiches". That is what was painted on their window and that is what they advertised, in the paper,"Italian Sandwiches". The rolls were as long as what is now called "Large" or "Super" and the sandwich cost all of $0.25 When Buddy got in the business in the West End he also sold Italian Sandwiches. When--and why did they suddenly become "hoagies"? I never heard the word till I got out of the Navy.....and up to that time never saw them anywhere else.
Name: dave shrop
Email: shropfam@aol
Residing: wilm.,de
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 11:25:38
hey, does anyone remember mr gilfillin the public speaking teacher from chester high?how about the split sessions because of the fire.
Name: Joan B
Email:
Residing:
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 08:31:16
Shirley, sorry I meant your brothers.
Name: JOAN
Email:
Residing:
Date: 19 Aug 2002
Time: 08:30:09
To Shirley R. Yes we are related. depending on the age of your sister I can tell which ERnie. There are four in the family.
Name: shirley Robertson
Email:
Residing: Delaware
Date: 18 Aug 2002
Time: 23:13:57
To Joan Bonacquisti: My twin brothers use to have a friend named Ernie Bonacquisti. Are you related to him?
Name: jwhiskers
Email:
Residing:
Date: 18 Aug 2002
Time: 22:57:35
In reference to Miss Brown at Morton School, there were two Miss Browns!, they were sisters, one probably worked at another Chester school,because she would pick her sister up at Morton at the end of the day. All I know is that she had a strong set of fingernails, and I probably still have the imprints in my neck! In case you were wondering the School building is still standing at 7th Morton Ave, I had the oppotunity to fire the furnance for Mrs Smith(Principal) while the janitor was out sick. I think that was my calling for the U.S. Navy and later General Motors where I am today.
Name: JOAN MCCRACKEN BONACQUISTI
Email: C21JMB
Residing: PARKSIDE
Date: 18 Aug 2002
Time: 21:54:23
HI JUST HAD TO SAY THANKS TO IRMA KOHN FOR PUTTING THE SMEDLEY CLASS OF 36 ON THIS BOARD. I SAW A PICTURE OF MY FATHER FRANK MCCRACKEN WHEN HE GRADUATED FROM SMEDLEY. THIS MADE MY DAY. THANKS AGAIN JOAN
Name: Hal Lloyd
Email: hm1979@gci.net
Residing: alaska
Date: 18 Aug 2002
Time: 21:23:11
I had a 2nd grade teacher Named Mrs Brown approx "66" Could it be???? This was at Franklin. I was in Franklin thru 5ht grade then Larkin for 6th
Name: T. Nicolaides
Email:
Residing: Chester, PA
Date: 18 Aug 2002
Time: 18:04:49
Ted Dobrowsky....If it is the same Mrs. Brown, she was my first grade tacher at Larkin school around1942/43. Tom Nicolaides(CHS 54)
Name: Ray Agent
Email: rayagent@earthlink.net
Residing: near Claymont
Date: 18 Aug 2002
Time: 01:22:27
Ted Dobrowski - I started my academic career at Morton Ave. School in Feb. 1938. I remember that they discontinued the midyear program when I was in the second grade and I had to do a year and a half in second in order to make the adjustment. Needless to say, I was not too happy about the idea. But, I lived.
I do not remember a teacher by the name of Brown. But I left in the middle of the third grade to attend St Clement's in Phila. I do remember a Mrs. Cummings and her daughter who taught first and second grades. In the third grade I had Mrs. Carter. Does this bring back any memories?
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 18 Aug 2002
Time: 00:13:00
Mrs. Irma Mailman Kohn, Chester, PA,:. how nice of you to share the memories for many of us of Mailmans store. Your picture of Smedley class of 36, CHS student strike of 1936-37 of and the cooking class are a treasure. I hope some of the people that were in those pictures can remember and write about them. Again what a treasure to be added to this site. ..Thank you.
Name: Ted Dobrowski
Email: teddobr@bellatlantic.net
Residing: Brookhaven, Pa.
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 23:01:15
Hey can I hear from any guys that attended Morton school. From the years 1938 to 1944.Anyone member Mrs. Brown...
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 21:40:55
HAROLD: Everyone will tell you where the "best hoagies are" - as for scrapple - I guess you're just gonna have to go back home to get it. Furthermore, I think every class reunion should feature Hoagies and Scrapple - forget steak, chicken and fish.
Name: Harold Lloyd
Email: hm1979@gci.net
Residing: Nome AK
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 20:28:13
Gee..what can I say..I Couldnt wait to get out of Chester when I joined the Navy at 17. I never bothered with any of the reunions, never looked back or cared to. Chester and all who lived in it be Dammed was my attitude. Now good or bad..I'm drawn to reminisce..to fondly remember. I guess What Chester makes...also made us who we are, and It's time to accept that and, try to remember the good times of growing up no matter how tough we thought we had it...It could have been worse. There are positive memorys and friends who never should have been forgotten as much as they have been. So I hope to see some of you at a 30th "75" class reunion if we have one, and could someone tell me currently where the best hoagies are...Man I would kill for some scrapple right now!!!
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 19:43:52
Geez I almost forgot to post the last chapter of our olde England oddities. After this one, you will have to post your own memories of your own peculiar way of life - in good taste, that is.
They (meaning our ancesters in olde England) also had lead cups and when they would drink their ale or whiskey, the combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days (boiler-makers, perhaps). These people were often thought to be dead. So, they would be picked up and taken home to be buried. (Apparently, it was "mens' night out" - men haven't changed much. I can almost hear those poor wives crying out - "Bring 'em home alive Casey".) Since there was a possibility that they weren't really dead, they would lay out the body on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait to see if they would wake up. That's where the custom of holding a "wake" came from (I often wondered about that - never did make sense to me - why the word "wake"?).
Since England is old and small, they started running out of places to bury people. Once they began digging up some coffins (now, why would they dig up some coffins - to recycle them, maybe?), they found that one out of 25 had scratch marks on the inside. They realized they had still been burying people alive. So, they started tying a string on the deceased's wrist and placing a bell at the end of it up above ground. Someone would sit out in the graveyard all night to listen for the bell. That is how the saying "graveyard shift" was made. If the bell rang, they would know that someone was "saved by the bell", or he was a "dead ringer"!!!!!!!
HOWEVER, even the really, really dead rose from their graves, when the hoagies arrived in February from Italy - later they ordered them from Chester.
THE END.
Now, let's hear it for grande olde England for leaving us with these worthless bits of useful trivia.
Name: keith chubbs
Email: flapper22@charter.net
Residing: north carolina
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 11:02:37
this is for bill locke. on the hogie ? bill i would have to agree with you. i know you know your hogies how are you hope family is fine. keith
Name: Bob Burger
Email: sailbob9@aol.com
Residing: Saratoga NY
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 09:22:06
TO "good ole joe"! Just read your post of 4/30 regarding "4 westen Aces". That was Bill Hailey and the 4 Western Aces who had the daily radio show at WPWA and the group also appeared at what I believe to be Radio Park owned by WPWA. His theme song was "I'm sending you a big bouquet of roses". I lived in the same apartment building as he and his wife and daughter, it was across from the B&O Station. I used to babysit his daughter and as payment he would take me to watch his live radio show and on Sundays to the radio park. I was also present the evening his wife took their daughter and left him. I often wonder what happened to the wife and daughter as I never heard of them again. The last time I saw Bill was at an appearnce in Schenectady NY while I was a Police Officer there and he came out to visit me. We only spent a few minutes chatting because he had a show to do. As a recent visitor of this web-site I deeply enjoy it and it brings back fond childhood memories. JOHN KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ON THE SITE!!!
Name: C.
Email:
Residing:
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 02:28:41
Tom: There is a Baptist camp ground in Malaga, NJ that has been there forever. I can remember seeing the little white houses and the grounds as a child and it looks as though the camp grounds have changed very little over the years. I believe it is called the Malaga Camp grouds. My friends grandmother would go there in the summer. Perhaps this is the one you are thinking of.
Name: Caroline
Email: carpete@verizon.net
Residing:
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 02:23:31
Thank you for the link to the National Shrine of Saint Padre Pio. I knew of this new Saint, but not as much as other Saints. I was moved when I saw a outside Alter in the Farm Lands of NJ dedicated to Him. The faith of so many that believe in His unselfish acts of love and the Healings attributed to him is remarkable. For those of us that Believe in Spiritual Intervention in all matters it is a gift.
If you would like to see a picture of this newest of Shrines please email me with a note and I will send them to you.
Name: DonnaMarieLewis
Email:
Residing: Brookhaven
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 02:23:06
Hi Harvey, you know how some really believe that their are no 'coindence' right well, I heard some upsetting news tonite about how sick my brother Joey has been from the chemo treatments and that new cancer is showing up, so I couldn't sleep,worrying thinking and praying. I decided to get on the computer to try and get my mind off of it for awhile,'cos I can't sleep. Anyways the coindence for me kinda is I see all these postings about this Saint Padre Pio, whom I almost feel embarrased to say I don't ever remember hearing about him until, when Joey came home from the hospital I noticed he has been wearing a medal every day pinned to his shirt and I ask who's that , he tells me St. Padre Pio , that was the first I ever heard of him. I somewhat believe in miracles and hope one will happen for him,I like what Caroline posted about the statue of him and what it says at the bottom, I got the hope, and prayer down, just wish I could get the 'don't worry' down. Thanks for the stories and the link and info on the book on this Saint,I got some good research to do.
Name: Tom Morrison
Email: tmorr42@aol.com
Residing: chadds ford
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 01:16:09
My mother Kathleen (Farnan) morrison is still around. I'm sure it would be of interset to her as well as myself to know your name. My mother grew up in McCafferty Village. She is now 61 yrs old. If you dont want to post your name you can email me at the above address. Thank you!
Tomm JR.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 17 Aug 2002
Time: 01:01:19
The book about the miracle at CCMC is: Padre Pio: The True Story by C. Bernard Ruffin.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 23:21:48
Tom Jr. I knew your father from living in the same area, he was a tuff guy aand had a reputation and liked by all the girls back then.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 23:16:19
Absolutely beautiful Padre Pio shrine off of old Route 100 in Barto, PA. Vera Calandra, who visited Padre Pio with her very sick child, donated property to establish this shrine. The child improved after the visit. The only shrine in North America authorized by the Capuchin Friars
http://www.iiculture.org/saints.html
Scan down the page.
Name: Pat mcFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 22:47:30
I am reading and very interested in your stories regarding Padre Pio. I believe this story was featured on TV - either "Unsolved Mysteries" or "Its a Miracle", a show of that type. I know it was a PA boy because of the locale mentioned and the PA accent of the mother who was interviewed. (I know you don't realize it, but there is a distinct "accent" of people from our home town and surrounding areas - and I have not completely lost mine.) Anyhow, I've seen this a few times and it is a nationally-known phenomenum.
This true story should prove to us that God exists, his guardian angels are at work 24/7 and miracles do, INDEED, happen. I've had them happen in my life - and prayers work.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 22:21:00
Thank you to Helen and John...I went to The Word today and found a book called "Padre Pio - The True Story." It has a few pages about the miracle. He was Paul Walsh from Ridley Park. He was a senior at St. James. He lost control of his car on an icy road at 10:30 at night on Dec 2, 1983. He smashed into a telephone pole at high speed and was taken to Taylor Hospital. He had serious head injuries and multiple bone fractures in his face. He was transferred to CCMC. I won't try to describe all the problems he had but at one point his parents were advised that he had suffered permanent brain damage and they should look for a nursing home for him. Twice someone brought a glove that had been worn by Padre Pio to Paul and prayed for him. The second visit was on April 6th and when his parents came to see him the next day he was awake and alert and he began to improve. When his parents came on Easter Sunday (April 22nd) Paul told them that Uncle Charley had been there to see him early that morning. To make a long story short Mrs. Walsh knew there was no way Uncle Charley could have been there that morning and when she showed him a photo of Padre Pio and asked him if that's who had visited him he said, "Yes, Isn't that Uncle Charley?" Paul finished high school and graduated from Delaware Co Community College. Padre Pio is now St Pio of Pietrelcina.
Name: Betty
Email: stang524@aol.com
Residing: NJ
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 20:20:45
I don't post much on the site but read it every day. Just wanted to tell ever one I'm going to Chester tomorrow for a family reunion. Actually it's in Brookhaven,but I will go through Chester because I still go the old way from NJ over the Commodore Barry Bridge. After all this hoagie talk I really have to bring some back with me. But the best part of my trip is that I'm meeting up with a friend I graduated with from Smedley in 1952 we have not seen each other since then. And of coarse I meet up with her through this site. Thank you John. My name was Betty Embert her name was Shirley Robinson
Name: JOHN MARCHLIK
Email: JDMARCH@PRODIGY.NET
Residing: ASTON
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 19:46:34
TO HARVEY MARTIN - Regarding thee miracle at CCMC and Padre pio. I had the honor of meeting & shaking hands with the young man that was healed through St. Pio's intercession. He and his Mom were at St. Joseph's in Aston giving a talk at the Home & School association's gathering years ago. The extent of his injuries was overwhelming. Regards
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 18:54:25
Tommy Morrison SR. unfortunately passed away on AUG 15, 1986. How did you know my father?
Tommy JR.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 16:51:48
I too am sorry to hear about Linville Orchard. I remember it vaguely, but I remember it.
More olde England trivia:
If you had money, your plates were made out of pewter. Food with a high acid content would cause some of the lead to leach[sic] out from the pewter into the food. This was a real problem with tomatoes, so they stopped eating them for 400 years.
Most people didn't have pewter plates. They used trenchers which was a piece of wood with the middle scopped out like a bowl. They never washed their boards and a lot of times, worms would get into the wood. After eating off the trencher with worms, they would get "trench mouth.
Bread was divided according to status. The workers would get the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family would get the middle and guests would get the top, or the "upper crust".
But when the hoagies arrived, no one knew or cared which part of the bread they were eating (except for the wee ones) because it all went together so well.
Oh, I've been forgetting to mention that the hoagies were imported from Italy, and only once a year. They smelled a little "fishy" when they arrived, but no one cared.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 16:04:55
Tommy Morrison Sr. was a legend in his own time. Is he still with us?
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 15:55:35
Thanks Charlie, that's pretty amazing that the mother and father are still alive they weren't to young when I went there, when I was a little kid. I kind of remember when Joel took over. And I kind of remember going to the new building a few times when they had the bus. Then it stopped coming and I didn't have a ride there so I stopped going.
Name: Tom morrison
Email: tmorr42@aol.com
Residing: Chadds Ford
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 15:37:41
Tom Morrison CHS76
My father was Tom Morrison SR. I believe he grew up on Kane Street, Highland Gardens.
Tom
Name: Tina
Email:
Residing: Havana Florida
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 12:36:34
Thank you Harvey. I had a few people from up in the area write me (via email) and said the barn is burned to the ground. The orchard is fine. No word on loss of life for either humans or the animals. That is a huge loss to the community. I think kids still went out to Linvilla on halloween. My Dad always took me there and we'd get hot cider, look at the animals, pick out a Christmas tree. It's sad.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 09:56:38
Linvilla history
http://www.linvillaorchards.com/history.htm
Name: Tina
Email: Cupatea712"Family"@hotmail.com
Residing: Havana Florida
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 09:22:12
Just checked the message boards after a few weeks and was surprised to see the news about Linvilla Orchards. That is so sad! I loved that place as a kid and have been to visit with my family a few times in the last several years. Glad I got photos. Does anyone know the extent of the damage? Are all those animals Ok...anyone hurt? There isn't anything in the Delco Times yet - I just checked.
Name: Tina
Email: Cupatea712"Family"@hotmail.com
Residing: Havana Florida
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 09:21:55
Just checked the message boards after a few weeks and was surprised to see the news about Linvilla Orchards. That is so sad! I loved that place as a kid and have been to visit with my family a few times in the last several years. Glad I got photos. Does anyone know the extent of the damage? Are all those animals Ok...anyone hurt? There isn't anything in the Delco Times yet - I just checked.
Name: C.
Email:
Residing:
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 06:15:44
Just a quick note: Linville Orchards burned down. the old historical site many of us went to as childern and then later took our children. Should be on the news now...and in the paper today. Loved taking pictures there on Halloween and the enjoyment of the children with the little zoo area they had...Our areas 8 sided barn that became a landmark...Sorry to see the news on this.
Name: Percy Harper Sr.
Email: Drumrluv"nospam" @aol.com
Residing: 23rd street Chester
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 05:24:12
I would love to see some more pictures of old Chester...maybe from the 1930's or so.
Just so my children can see what a great place this used to be, who knows maybe they will help make it Great again.
God Bless
Name: Caroline
Email: carpete@verizon.net
Residing:
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 04:16:46
Padre Pio's Shrine: In route to Mays Landing thru Rt 40 east just before coming to Landisville (approx. 20 miles after Rt. 55) in New Jersey, a beautiful shrine to this new Saint has been built in the farm lands. Plain, beautiful, a outside church where the air is filled with song..A place of such peace in this busy world..A outside church where the sunrise kisses your cheeks, where anyone can stop and have a moment to reflect on the gift the people that believe in his miricles have given the traveler, the farm hands and people of this area...What I took home with me was a message, one of many left at the feet of the Saints Statue. It read..HOPE, PRAY, DON'T WORRY.....words to help one get thru...
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 03:32:19
Padre Pio's Shrine is in Barto, PA
Name: charlie
Email:
Residing:
Date: 16 Aug 2002
Time: 02:19:59
Chester baptist temple that was on 15th. St. in Chester is now called Chichester baptist temple and is located on Cherry Tree Rd.,Chichester Pa. The minister is Joel Winters the son of the founder of the church. Joel has a house adjacent to the church that his mother and father lived at before they were placed in a home, both are still alive.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 22:42:40
Thanks, Helen, do you have any idea how long ago this miracle happened?
Name: Helen Gallo
Email: gallohj@aol.com
Residing: Ridley Park
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 21:47:57
For Harvey Martin. A young boy from St. Madeline's Parish was severely injured in an auto accident and recovered through the intercession of St. Padre Pio. I went to his shrine near Allentown and this miracle is outlined in books and pamphlets sold in their gift shop. I had a book which I purchased there but can't locate it.
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 21:08:35
Oh my gosh at 1 a.m.!!! I thought I had to be home by 10, maybe 11, after the St. James dance. Then that means, I was still awake at 1 a.m., with visions of sugar plums dancing in my head after the final playing of "Goodnight Sweetheart". Thank you for that information. After 50 plus years, some things escape my memory, especially when it comes to time, which was not all that important in those days.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 20:24:33
The Blue Bird of Happiness was sung every night @ 1AM
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 15:36:23
When I was typing that bit about the pot that sat filled for days on end, it brought to mind something that was brought up during our quiz about Mrs. Murphy and the overalls in her chowder. As it turned out, it was Mrs. Murphy who had "left" them there. Do you suppose they used the same pot to wash clothes and cook in too? Anyone know? If so, no wonder there were so many epidemics.
Harvey - You may not be THE Dean Martin, but you are every bit as charming, handsome and witty. Whew, I hope I exhonerated myself.
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 14:44:31
I remember going to a church on the east side. It was between Edgemont Ave and Providence Rd. It was called Chester Baptist Temple. The Pastor was a Rev. Winters and his wife. This was back in the early 60's. I remember they took us to a camp Maranatha. I don't remember where it was. Did anyone ever hear of it and where is it at? I remember it because some kid was throwing darts and hit me in the side of the head. They said I was lucky because it was about a 1/2 inch from my temple.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 13:56:51
You mean all those people calling me Crotchety think I'm Dean Martin instead of Harvey?
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 13:18:10
Incidently, you probably already know, but Dean's real last name was "Crochetti".
OK - here's more olde England trivia:
When you entered the house, you would notice most times that the floor was dirt. (I remember dirt floors in old Chester.) Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. That's where the saying "dirt poor" came from. The wealthy would have slate floors. That was fine, but in the winter they would get slipperty when wet. So, they started to spread thresh on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they would just keep adding it and adding it until when you opened the door, it would start slipping outside. So, they put a piece of wood at the entry way, a "thresh hold".
In the kitchen, they had a big kettle that always hung over the fire and every day they would light the fire and start adding things to the pot. Mostly, they ate vegetables, because they didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, then leave the leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day.
Sometimes, the stew would have food in it that had been in there for a month! Thus, the rhyme: peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot, nine days old."
Sometimes they could get ahold of some pork. They really felt special when that happened and when company came over, they even had a rack in the parlor where they would bring out some bacon and hang it to show it off. That was a sign of wealth and that a man "could really bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and they would all sit around and "chew the fat."
(I remember seeing a movie a few years ago about a town in Scotland or England - not sure - where food was scarce and a family stole a prize pig, not only for food, but to gain the admiration of all for having a pig. Needless to say the pig caused havoc in the house and the culprits were brought to justice.)
Hoagies took second place to pork in those days.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 13:03:05
TO; JOAN M. - THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for clarifying the wives and children of Mr. Martin. I thought there were 5 children by his first wife; but I was darn sure that the son who died was from his second marriage. You have cleared up that part of the story for me; however, does anyone know what happened to Elizabeth Ann and why she is never acknowledged as the mother of his first 4 children? It is always implied in a subtle way that Jeanne is the mother of all seven. This is what has always bothered me and apparently has been hushed up for some unknown reason. The absence of ever mentioning her is louder than if she had been mentioned. And, I don't think it was the media or his press agent, I think it was Dean's decision or desire to omit her completely from his life. But, how can you do that when you share children with someone?
Thanks again Joan.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 12:05:56
Does anyone remember the miracle that took place at CCMC attributed to St. Padre Pio?
Name: Joan M
Email:
Residing: AZ/VA
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 08:03:39
Dean Martin was married three times,
first to wife Elizabeth Anne McDonald on October 2, 1941. The couple had four children: Stephen (Craig), born June 29, 1942; Claudia, born March 16, 1944; Barbara (Gail), born April 11, 1945; and Deana (Dina), born August 19, 1948.
He married second wife Jeanne Biegger on September 1, 1949 and had three children: Dino Paul Jr., born November 17, 1951; Ricci James, born September 20, 1953; and Gina Caroline, born December 20, 1956.
In 1973, Martin married third wife Catherine Mae Hawn, and adopted a daughter Sasha. Their marriage ended in 1976.
Martin suffered a tragic loss when his son, Dino Jr., was killed in a plane crash during a military training exercise in 1987. He retired from show business after a 1988-89 concert tour with fellow rat-packers Sammy Davis, Jr. and Frank Sinatra, which ended for Martin after he became ill and was replaced by Liza Minelli for the remainder of the tour. Martin died of acute respiratory failure in Beverly Hills on December 25, 1995.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 15 Aug 2002
Time: 08:01:26
mmm
Name: Jocko CHS 52
Email:
Residing: DE
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 20:28:19
Amen on Marrone`s 423 west third st.
Name: C.
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 20:22:05
Did Marone's make a manicotti that was covered with a gravy with a wine base..I know Ralphs in Philly still makes the original recipe used in the early 50's but someone in Chester made better then even Ralphs..
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 20:19:07
Giuseppi's was on Third St near Kerlin and then later located on McDade Blvd in Woodlyn. A lot of people would take their own pot to get takeout. It was very good and very reasonable.
Name: jocko CHS 52
Email:
Residing: De
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 20:09:45
The orignal Stackey`s was in Woodlyn off Chester pike left going to Philly Then to the alley acrooss from the FRANKLIN FIRE HOUSE Not the MOyas then they moved across the street. Also not to change the subject and always appear negative Does anyone else remember Jan Peerce and THE BLUEBIRD OF HAPPINESS> when WIP signed off at 6am?
Name: GP
Email:
Residing: Pa
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 20:01:53
My favorite place for spagetti,rigatoni and such in the old days was a place called Marones. It was located on 3rd street between Franklin and Parker.It was not only great food but was run by a very nice family.Im talking about the 30's,40's and 50's.Some of the family presently work in the Brookhaven Deli.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 19:41:32
Paul: Pat's at 9th and Federal, boy that is a place, 24 hrs around the clock. They put that melted cheese on your steak in Philly..the orange stuff or is that yellow..maybe its cheese wiz..my first one there in 1959. Some jerk told me to put that red sauce on it. I did plus the hot peppers..bit into it and smoke and flame poured from between my lips. They have a good Cherry soda tho. People from Philly love that type of steak..Theres a certain way to eat them. if in town and getting a taste for one I prefer Geno's across the street. Plus they sell fresh roasted pork sandwiches..
you know whats changed though, the soft pretzels..the old texture is gone..like so many of the good things I never appreciated when I was young.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 19:12:30
Guiseppi's on Third Street
Name: Paul
Email:
Residing: VA
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 19:00:12
I agree Chester is the "home" of the hoagie. I worked in South Jersey awhile. A girl would buy sandwiches from the Northeast's "best" hoagie shop on Fridays. The whole office ate them. I tried it once and never ate another. Also, after Flyers games my South Jersey friends would crave Pat's Cheesesteaks. I ate a few but later just ordered a soda and watched them eat that dog meat. On weekends I'd go back to Chester for a hoagie or cheesesteak.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 18:56:15
Tip toe thru the 2 lips...
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 18:54:54
There was a place in the Woodlyn area where you could go into the basement of a house and it had afew tables, but what was unique about it was that you would bring your own pot and they would fill it with home made spaghetti to take out. Was that place Mattera's cellar? Does anyone remember? Trying to remember the best place to get spaghetti in the 50's and 60's.. Where did we go for spaghetti dinners in Chester. You know, when we wanted to dine out?
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 18:53:20
Johnnie Ray - He was amazing because he was deaf and how he could hit the right notes when singing is practically mystical. Isn't that amazing? Perry Como was absolutely wonderful, just wonderful, a favorite of mine too.
How about Tiny Tim? Now there's one for the books.
Name: florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 18:09:36
Kate and Pat Johny Ray, yes he was wild for his time, I saw him in the George M. cohan story with James Cagney,Ethel Merman,Donald O'connor, Marilyn Monroe,Dan Daily,And Joan Leslie. I liked Dean Martin also and Perry Como. Their are so many I can't think of them all. I liked a lot of orchestra's and pianists and Paul Whiteman. One of my favorites written by Jerome Kern is Rhapsody in Blue. I could go on and on. How many wonderful singers and groups. I raised 4 teenagers and each one had their own type of music they liked. I was brainwashed on it all.
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 16:24:38
what about Johnnie Ray, Pat? wasn't he wild for his day?
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 16:01:36
Kate - another surprise - I was never a Tony Bennett fan either, nor his counterpart - Frankie Laine, i.e., "Mule Train - there's a muddy road ahead - hit 'em high, hit 'em low - mule train". Hard to get romantic listening to that. There was a fella by the name of Larry Darnell who sang "Three Letters" that I really liked while in high school. Never knew what became of him. But, Buddy Greco had a 1/2 hour TV show out of Phila. that I rushed home to watch after school - in the late 40's. He was the piano player and vocalist with a trio then and apparently was just starting out. Still like Buddy today.
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 15:51:30
geez, I am too young to remember Frank when he was young, sure did love him when he was older his hits in the 60's were great, I only knew of D.M. with Jerry Lewis. you gals must love the fact that Tony Bennett is still around singing for the MTV generation.
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 15:45:34
I almost forgot about the next shocking facts in old England - got carried away thinking about Dino - which incidentally was my first husband's last name. Now, back to our illustrous ancesters.
Their houses were covered with thatch roofs - thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. The roof was the only place for little animals to get warm. So, all the dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs, lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery so sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Thus, the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs." TRUE (Oh, what a mess - watch out, here comes another one!!)
This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings from animals in the roof could really mess up your nice clean bed, so they made beds with big posts and hung a sheet over the top to catch the falling buggers. That's where those beautiful big 4-poster beds with canopies came from. TRUE (How absolutely lovely - from chaos came charm.)
When it was time to enjoy their hoagies in February, everyone ate outside, so as to avoid the falling critters - rain, snow or fair weather - nothing could prevent their enjoyment of a hoagie. FALSE.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 15:30:55
Kate and +++ - Surprise - I never was a Sinatra fan, and it was not Dean's "voice" I was mad about, it was his charm, demeanor and extremely good looks (especially after his nose job). And, I understand that the "easy-going" ways he exhibited in front of the camera, were his true personality. He was the peace maker in the clan. OH, OH, WHAT A GUY!!!
And, Mario Lanza - oh, how wonderful I thought he was. He was born in the same timeframe I was in Phila. and I clearly remember the Italian boys in town trying to imitate Lanza. If they saw someone walking down the street and thought she was pretty, they would just get down on their knees (in the middle of the sidewalk, anywhere) and sing as loud as they could - "Be My Love." Oh, how cute they were.
My favorite pop singers however are Joe Williams (now deceased - sang with Count Basie), Jack Jones and Steve Lawrence.
In the meantime, what's the story on Dean's first wife? What happened to her?
Jerry Lewis' wife was Pat/Patsy.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 14:10:20
Kate: Pat preferred Dean Martin...I preferred Dean Martin also (I am not Pat)...Just a matter of vocal choice...I loved Franks young voice, but not his older more mature. I referred to Dean as a preference, not as any competition to Frank S. as there were none. Frank S. has always been a great crooner...I remember seeing him in Atlantic City in the 1940's at a little club off the main drag..I was there on vacation as a kid and we stood at what I guess was the back door and listened. ..Some people like Mario Lanza over Caruso. Its just a matter of taste. Like the Hoagie and the cheese steak..which taste better.
There was a Catholic Church in AC where the Priest of the time had loud speakers set outside (think just off Atlantic and the Boardwalk) because the crowds grew so large that he wanted all to be accomodated..Many of the entertainers would be outside on the boards listening to Fathers message..So of course everyone became Catholic on Sunday just to see who came to listen. I still prefer Dean..and Lanza...
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 13:44:42
Patricia, I have to disagree with you about comparing 'ole blue eyes' with D.M. Frank could always sing better. LOL
Name: theresa tobin boyle
Email: tessboyle@hotmail.com
Residing: media
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 13:02:34
does anyone have any information about 6th & kerlin st in chester? we use to live there with our grandparents helen & chick cross. near lawton's drug store. frank's store, would like to get pictures of our old house,but i am afraid the neighborhood might be to dangrous,does anyone know how it is down thers now? thank you
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 12:49:17
and Pat..the answer to your minds question is YES it is.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 12:46:08
Patricia: Regarding Dean M's. son that was killed in the air crash (he was assigned if memory serves me well at Willow Grove Air Base in PA) was the oldest child of Dean M.. My memory keeps trying to tell me that the true name of his first wife was Patsy (don't know if that is so) I do remember bumping into the sons (Dino ?) aunt shortly after he died. The death of anyone so young is a heartbreak to the family.
I to think his voice was one of the Best. Have many if not all of his recordings. Still do. Pack rat that I am. In fact I preferred his voice over Ole Blue Eyes...His tone did not change over the years. The quality was such that he did not have to have a Phantom backup voice like so many others.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 12:10:14
To: +++ - Dean and his first wife had 5 children; and I'm almost positive the son who died in the airplane crash was from Jean, his second wife. If you ever look at his picture, his looks are a combination of Dean and Jean - her blond hair and blue eyes. I remember thinking, what a tragedy - his and Jean's first child. I have seen some of Dean's children from his first marriage, and they were all dark-haired. Jean was a former Copa girl - that's where they met - at the Copacobana in NY in the early 50's.
However, what happened to our local girl? He was from Ohio and she from PA. It would be interesting to know where and how they met. They must have been very young and then very quickly had 5 children. Because it wasn't too long after Dean and Jerry made it big that he married Jean. So, he couldn't have been a star when he met our local girl.
This is probably boring to a lot of people, but I have always been curious about it. Yes, I adored Dean Martin.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 13 Aug 2002
Time: 06:04:32
Patricia:
Dean Martins first wife was from Morton, his oldest son that died was from the first wife. I have forgotten how many children she had with Dean. I believe her sister Barbara is still living in the area. Lovely gal Barbara. Worked at Boeing.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing:
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 23:47:55
To: FC - That's sounds logical too, and where did they store the dead bodies until burial time? My goodness. Imagine going to visit the dear departed - oh my. I am only giving you information that I came across that's supposed to be legitimate. But, it's not mentioned anywhere about how they handled the deceased. Remember, my "facts" concern the 1500's - which is a VERY long time ago. Well, one question always leads to another, doesn't it?
Name: FC(CHS)68
Email:
Residing:
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 23:22:17
To Pat McF(CHS)50 There was something on TV about why more people get married in June. It seems a very long,long,long time ago when it was a lot colder and people died,the ground was so frozen,all burials were put off until May when the ground thawed out. When spring came around nobody wanted to get married in May, so June became the favorite time to get hitched. FC
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 23:06:28
I have a question. Not too long ago, someone posted the fact that Dean Martin's first wife was from the Chester area - a McDonald. I have always known he was married before Jean and had five children by that first wife. Every time I read an article (just read one on Saturday) it implies that Jean is the mother of all 8 children; i.e., Dean and Jean and their 8 children. It always gives the impression that Jean is the mother of all 8. The first wife is NEVER mentioned as mother to the first five. I feel this is very cruel. Dean and Jean were married in approx. 1954-55.
Does anyone know what happened to the first wife? If she passed away, that would explain it; but I never heard of her death.
Name: Kate
Email: Brit1675@bellsouth.net
Residing: Panama City Beach, Fl.
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 22:41:37
John, I loved those cheeseburgers from Fishers Corner, went there a lot in the early 60's.
Name: john
Email:
Residing: West Chester,Pa
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 22:09:04
How about the hamburgers from Fishers corner when it was just a screened in shack.You could smell those burgers as soon as you rounded the corner at Mount Hope Church.Haven't had a hamburger that good for a long while.
Name: Hoagie Lover
Email:
Residing:
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 19:56:46
Boy - my post really started the hoagie talk, didn't it? I think the whole nation with Chester origins are now craving for a juicy Italian hoagie - everything hot!!!
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: No-Hoagieville, Arizona
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 17:38:30
I see by the Delco times that you might be getting a race track on the old Sun Ship Bldg. site. That should be exciting and generate many jobs. I hope so.
Here's more trivia from Old England in the 1500's. No sense trying to tease you, all this is true (except for the hoagies in the first one). So, it's more or less "Believe it or Not" - but TRUE. Wait, you will be shocked.
Most people got married in June. Why? They took their yearly bath in May, so they were still smelling pretty good by June, although the brides would carry a bouquet of flowers to hide their developing b.o. TRUE!!!
The yearly bath in May was just a huge tub filled with hot water. The man of the house would get the privilege of the nice clean water. Then, all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all, the babies. By then, the water was pretty thick. Thus, the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water" - it was so dirty, you could actually lose someone in it. TRUE!!!
When the hoagie finally arrived in late February from the local open-air markets, the men started at one end, followed by the servants, then the women, and the wee ones were left with but a crust of bread. Thus the saying, "The bread is the best part of the hoagie." FALSE!
Stay watching, more to come. It gets even better (or worse) depending on how you look at it.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 15:39:40
Welcome aboard, Jack!
Name: Jack Morrison
Email: morrisj@phillynews.com
Residing: media, Pa.
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 15:22:07
I started going to Stackey's in the early '50s when they were across the street from the Moyamensing Fire Co., right at the corner of a little alley. It was quite a small shop in those days, but even then, it was worth the trip from Media. After they moved across the street, there was more room to move around in, but the food remained the same high quality. People who now make hoagies at places like Wawa ought to visit Stackey's to find out to make eight or ten hoagies at the same time, and how to slice those tomatoes and onions with such a deft moton of the knife. When our gang used to arrive from Media, the guys behind the counter would call out, "Hey Media!" I haven't been back there is 20 or more years, but I'll bet if we walked in today, they would still yell, "Hey Media." My brother, Leedom B. Morrison, worked for 16 years as planning director of Chester to try to restore the life of that grand old town. I'm afraid he had only limited success before he finally gave up and went to work for the Delaware County Planning Commission. He died six years ago this Thanksgiving. His obit is on the Old Chester Web. Third Street in the old days was predominantly Italian. We used to drink in the Franklin Hotel on the corner above Stackey's. It was a dump then. I don't know what it must be like now. But we put away a lot of beer there. Before we all got cars, we used to ride the bus to Chester, buy a hoagie, go to some secluded spot and eat it, then hop the bus back home. Kids nowadays just don't have that kind of fun. Co7 ?ind buys tzy7 m
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 11:41:39
When I was growing up the smells from Dalton's bakery were wonderful.It was at 16th and Providence Ave. I worked in there when I was 15. She used to give me some dinner rolls. Actually some people named Phillips took it over at that time. I remember it well.
Name: Tom Morrison CHS76
Email:
Residing:
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 10:09:24
HEY TOM AM DAVE 3RD & WILSON WEST END ---CHESTER/ IS YOUR FATHER OR YOUR GRANDFATHER "TOM MORRISON WHO LIVED ON 9TH ST. BELOW HIGHLAND AVE ?
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 10:02:43
Hi, Dave, Seems to me I've heard about the loaves and fishes somewhere else.
Name: Dave Hentosh
Email: david.j.hentosh@lmco.com
Residing: Yardley, PA
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 07:25:32
I grew up around the corner from Earro's Bakery when it was located on Palmer Street and have never found rolls that were as good. The smell of the fresh-baked rolls permeated the neighborhood and my mother used to give me a nickel to buy a large roll as it came out of the oven. It was the best snack you could get. I also used to go there to get a ball of dough (free) to use as bait when I went fishing in Chester Creek in Chester Park. The catfish and carp loved that dough and I always caught a few with it. I sure wish I could find a place that had rolls like Earro's did.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 12 Aug 2002
Time: 06:37:44
Getting Chester on Track
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=5023305&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18171&rfi=6
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 22:39:40
Ok i have to tell you all.......There is all this talk about hoagies if you want a good hoagie come on down to Claymont De. there is the old claymont steak shop on Philadelphia Pike they have some very good hoagies and if i recall correctly they get there rolls from Bruno Brother's Bakery my ex worked there back in 1983 and he would bring home some rolls that were still warm out of the oven's and oh how delicious they were you needed nothing on them they were good just fresh and warm......
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 22:35:08
P.S.Joe and Augie DiCostanza as are John and Polly..
Name: C.
Email:
Residing:
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 22:33:10
Robert: I must admit, I know where it is, but never had a hot dog from there. I was never big on hotdogs..
Name: Robert
Email:
Residing: Chester, Pa
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 22:00:28
Caroline,
Thank you for clearing that up for Patricia. I have to admit that I've been very close to Joe and Augie DiCostanza for about 26 years. I know that one of them is at the shop when it's open. Now that Joe is up in his 70's he's not at the shop for very long. Augie handles the major hours and if a hoagie got out of his door in the shape 'no name' states, it was wrapped in haste by mistake. Augie would appreciate having it back and then feed your family for the error. I guess it struck kind of close to home when you hear 'family' being publicly humiliated when you know they are kind and generous people. Ok, Patricia, you must have in mind Habberset scrapple; I think that was the best. Caroline, do you remember 'John's Doggies" down the street from the Newsstand? They were good dogs, and cheap. Till later, goodnight.
Name: Kate
Email:
Residing: P.C.B. Fl.
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 21:52:40
Florence, I have been busy. the weather in the panhandle was very hot until last week then the humidity broke and temp.s dropped & we are having beautiful days & 60's at night.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 20:31:16
Thought you might be interested in some trivia regarding our English ancesters. Very possibly some of these odd ways were still practiced when they landed in Chester.
Life in the 1500's was not as romantic as we may picture it. Here are some examples.
Anne Hathaway, wife of William Shakespeare, married at the "old age" of 26. Most people in the 1500's married young, the age of 11 or 12. Her childhood home was a 3-bedroom house with a small, seldom-used parlor, kitchen, and no bathroom. Mother and Father shared a bedroom. Anne had a queen-sized bed, shared with 3 other sisters and 6 servant girls. They didn't sleep like we do - lengthwise, but rather all laid on the bed crosswise. TRUE or FALSE?
The other bedroom was shared by her 6 brothers and 30 field workers. They didn't have a bed. Everyone just wrapped up in their blanket and slept on the floor. They had no indoor heating, so all the extra bodies kept them warm. TRUE or FALSE?
Mutton was not their favorite food - hoagies were. TRUE or FALSE?
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 19:34:19
Kate, where you been? Cheese steak, sounds good.Everything sounds good to me. How is your weather?hot,hot here
Granny, aren't you right.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 18:59:57
DEWEY Class of 1954 names have been added by John to the What's New section..If you can ID any of the first names please email John with that information..
Name: KateND65
Email: brit1675@bellsouth.net
Residing: Panama City Beach, Fl.
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 18:46:04
o.k. o.k. where are all the cheese steak lovers from my old home town???? been many years since I had a good cheese steak but the last I remember was Stacky's and the roll also is what makes it Chesters best along with the cheese. Any other favorites out there?
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 17:03:30
Again, I say to the person who bought the off-beat hoagie from D'Constanza's - you have made it sound like it was a one-time occurrence.
Any proprietor with the reputation that apparently this establishment has, practically insists that they be made aware of something like this. By not calling them at least immediately, you did them an injustice. By complaining about them as you did on a public forum like this doubled the injustice.
No employer has complete control over what every employee does every minute, and the person who fixed that "hoagie" might have been angry about something and ready to "walk out the door" and that was his/her revenge.
Next time, do the right thing and let them know. I would bet they would be more than happy to have you and your friends as their guests, maybe not once, but twice. Read what the other post said about Wawa's mailing them a coupon.
I think D'Costanza's has more class than that, don't you? Call them anyway - better late than never.
Name: DavidMacaroni
Email: cude84@earthlink.net
Residing: Marion Ohio
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 17:01:32
I understand the hoagie experiance completly. When I first moved to Ohio I could not find a decent hoagie anywhere. It took about 3 years to find a sub shop that was even close to the hoagie's I used to get when I lived out east. the only decent sub in the whole state of Ohio is from Jersey Mike's. They blow subway, blimpe and all other chain sub shops away. Still not a hoagie like the one's my father gets me when I visit home. He gose to a place called Stackies, i've never been there but I love them hoagie's.Wish we had something similar here in Ohio.
Name: T
Email: t9257
Residing: PA
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 16:50:52
Actually I think I'll get off this computer and head over to LaSpada's for a you know what right now. Hell it's only a mile from my house.
Anyone "JEALOUS"
I'll let you know how it tasted later..Tom
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 16:42:56
Hey, Tom Morrison I stopped in to see you week before last. Had a steak. I meant to say something but you got busy. How about dropping a LaSpada's half off coupon on this web site. So we can get a real hoagie. Also, I may be looking for a couple of pool shooters this Sept. stop in Chadds Ford Tavern see if Ricky wants to shoot. Tom
Name: FC(CHS)68
Email:
Residing: N WILM
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 16:35:32
Stopped at a Subway in Orlando for a hoagie and all the meats and cheese were pre cut and laying on paper in frig. To make it even worse one of the meats on the Italian hoagie was boloney. I settled on the turkey. FC
Name: Mary Ann Kessler Barrow
Email: mabarrow@NOJUNK.att.net
Residing: Villanova Pa
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 16:28:20
St. Michael's class of '52 reunion
Still looking for the following classmates:
Peggy Boden Mary Cooper James Quigley
Libby Glewwe Greenleaf Robert Moretti
Pat Hefton Ferraro Joan Klinger Wickert
Anna Kowac Thomas Olson Maurice Thibault
Dorothy McCafferty Elizabeth Trainor
Frances Paznokitis Joyce Schulberger Doyle
Margaret Tyrell
Please contact me if you have any info on these folks. Thanks so much.
Mary Ann
Name: bob garvey
Email: rbrtgrvy@aol.com
Residing: palm beach fl.
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 15:42:37
ST james 1967 worked for Phil and Jims 1 day only Job I ever lost.I now own 5 Subway Shops I have been in this for 16 years subway sandwhich shops in florida
Name: C.
Email:
Residing:
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 15:39:55
Tom: thats true, Chester is the Hub of the Hoagie - not just a sandwich, but and institution...Even Philly cannot make the original hoagie such as the ones that had their birth in Chester, regardless of what the Philly historians write..
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 15:19:53
All this talk about hoagies.... And the general consensus is and I am a firm beleiver that if you ever had a hoagie from Chester, in the old days, nothing else compares. I've tried them all wawa (yuk), blimpie (yuk), subway (yuk) and so on. I had a wawa hoagie about 2 years ago and I renamed it the lettuce sandwich. I even emailed wawa and told them that if they really wanted to learn how to make a hoagie they should setup training with the guys from LaSpada's, Phil&Jim's, or DiCostanza's. I also told them that I would never buy another one from any of thier stores and they they should stop calling them hoagies. Know what they reply " Sorry for your bad experience" Then they had the audacity to email me a coupon for a free hoagie. LOL I replied no thanks and deleted the email. The Best Hoagies are still made at the ORIGINAL hoagie shops from Chester...
Name: David Macaroni
Email: cude84@earthlink.com
Residing: Marion Ohio
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 12:55:55
Yes Christopher Macaroni is my cousin, but I have not seen him since 1975. But my sister has been in touch with him recently. I will ask her to let him know you said Hi. By the way my mother lives in Newark DE, and I used to live there myself until 1989 when I moved to Ohio.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 12:25:27
wow! now this was a first for me to have my honesty challenged concerning a hoagie that I ordered and got from D'Constanza's in LInwood. All I can say is wish you could of been here with us when we came home from the store and opened up the sandwich, then you could see for yourself, there were not one tomatoe, no pickles, no onions, no lettuce, no oil, only meat and cheese and 2 hot peppers wrapped in some paper on the side, now why would someone make that up c'mon, yea I remember when they used to make a good sandwich, there are way to many good places still around to get a good sandwich to go back ot D'Consstanza's in Linwood. This comment is not intended for an open arguement about Hoagies
Name: BILL LOCKE
Email: wlocke2@comcast.net
Residing: Claymont,DE
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 12:04:30
HOW CAN ANYONE PUT MAYO ON A HOAGIE.IF YOU PUT MAYO ON IT,IT'S A SANDWICH NOT A HOAGIE!!
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 08:37:46
the name of the project was McCaffery Village
Name: Tracy Lyons Kline
Email: kaky412@aol.com
Residing: Newark,DE
Date: 11 Aug 2002
Time: 01:57:42
David Macaroni-are you related to Christopher Macaroni? If so, I graduated from St. Robert's with him in 1977. Tell him I said Hi.
Name: P:at McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 22:49:39
Good Grief - when people do not post their name, or even a number, to identify who to respond to, how are we suppose to respond to the right person. Never-ending problems with "no names."
It reminds me of the movie "Member of the Wedding" with Ethel Waters and Julie Harris - one of my all-time favorite movies. Julie, in her adolescent confusion, wanted to change her name and thought everyone should change their name if they didn't like their own name. Ethel, in her wisdom, said, "Landsakes Child, if everyone changed their name, nobody would know who anyone was talking about." That's what the problem here is. Landsakes, at least give yourself a number.
Sorry Robert.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 21:12:24
Patricia:
Robert is a Dicostanza fan. He was referring to a post which line I have pulled out (See below) where someone had a dry hoagie..(not me) So we discussed the ins and outs of what is dry. It did make for conversation in the most enjoyable way...and If the person with the dry hoagie had not posted, we would not have known Robert was checking in at the NEWSSTAND. HI ROBERT...How about some more memories...thats what the NEWSSTAND is about..
Because of that post we learned about the history of the hoagie from Chester to Philly..
If memory serves me right at one time way back when there was a territory dispute about that history history...Who did the first hoagie really belong to...Chester or Philly or was it a couple of Chester shops claiming the fame.
08 Aug 2002 Time: 23:57:29
it was the driest hoagie I ever had, I had to put some mayo on it, and don't believe I'll order there anymore!
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 20:22:08
Now, now folks. You haven't tasted anything until you've had a "Blimpie". Right here in Phoenix, Arizona, where they haven't the foggiest idea of what an authentic hoagie is. However, some joker saw one or had one at one time, didn't know the name of it and decided it should be called what it looked liked - a "blimpie" or a "submarine".
Now the submarine he created is just that - it submerges slowly with lots of bubbles, leaves an extension of some sort before it disappears, and surfaces when you least expect it. Then when it is clearly out of sight, well, it wouldn't be in "good taste" to explain that here. However, if you put enough vinegar and oil on it, as I do, it brings make memories of what might have been.
In the meantime, will somebody please send me a hoagie from D'Costanza's, Stackey's or Alices's Restaurant, wherever? You are driving my taste buds wild. In the meantime, we do have Tastycakes out here - but no scrapple. My niece who was born here in Arizona, while helping me move, saw Tastycakes in my boxes. She really screamed, "Where did you find Tastycakes". She only spent a short 2 years back there, working in Atlantic City at one of the casinos, and because she was exposed to our good food, she never forgot. As no one does.
Robert - From what you have said I get the feeling your experience MIGHT have been a one-time thing. If so, you should have called them immediately. I'm sure you would have probably received ten times free what you didn't receive the first time. Sounds like the guy behind the counter wanted to change the routine. Happens to us all.
In the meantime, I humbly beg for a hoagie or scrapple.
Name: David Macaroni
Email: cuda84@earthlink.net
Residing: Marion, Ohio
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 20:21:30
What is the name of the project between Highland Gardens and Buckman Village? Or is Buckman Village the projects?
Name: C.
Email:
Residing:
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 16:31:33
Florence: With wet nuts I'll bet.
Harvey: Thanks for the link.
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 15:50:01
Give me a good ole banana split
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 15:41:28
Robert:
We must be in the same age group or there about..
My Oily hoagie is a dry hoagie to my husband. The dry hoagie may have been an oily one to me...Darn those taste buds each one is different...I did like when Mrs. DiConstanza made them..
WAWA Hoagie is a sandwich....but to many a teen and the younger generation it is the Hoagie...Sad how much they are missing.
The Black and White ...a squirt of chocolate a squirt of milk two dips of Van. I.C..and fill with seltzer.....I think thats how this soda Jerk made them....How about the Rootbeer Float. Easy as 1,2,3 to make at home.
Name: The Deaf One
Email:
Residing: Southern MD
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 15:29:08
All the stories about hoagies etc.etc. How about this. I'm sure we all grew up asking for a B/W shake huh? No one made better shakes than Halls. Imagine to my surprise when I came to Washington,DC to attend college saw a fountain store in that area and asked for a B/W shake and boy they had no idea what I was talking about, I ended up with chocolate shake instead of a B/W....LOL What an experience.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 15:20:39
Chester Industrial Highway Urban Archaeological Investigations
http://home.earthlink.net/~ahcinc/Chester.html
Name: Robert
Email:
Residing: Chester, Pa
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 14:29:06
Caroline, I can appreciate some of your comments and agree with most, but the dry hoagie remark is off the mark. Re-visit DiCostanza's out in Chi-Chester and get a dry and 2 pepper hoagie. When that happens I'll pay for it. As far as WaWa is concerned, they can make a pretty fair sandwich. That's all it is, not a hoagie. That allows places such as Subway and Zero's into the picture and they use pre-cut meat and bologna. I think a criteria is established and a good Italian hoagie has its "roots" too. Just my opinion, enjoy your hoagie(?)too
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 13:39:23
Robert,
I think each of us that enjoy the Hoagie has a favorite place where they are made. You started with DiCostanza's when they were still on 3rd street. The best of the best, so did I. Both Johnny and his brother knew how to make a great hoagie but they had first generation as hoagie making instructors. I also bought them at Buddy's down around Dewey School on 3rd street. Depending on who makes the hoagie, it can be a little dry regardless of where you buy at times (some rolls absorb the oil more than others, often those that prepare it think they put enough oil on). I have found that I now ask for extra oil at many places.
Today People swear by the WAWA hoagie--always fresh-- Its just a matter of taste.
they all taste good if its your favorite place to buy, especially if your not suppose to eat them anymore....you know that cholesterol stuff.
To each his/her own ENJOY your Hoagie.
Name: jack
Email: j.kersh@worldnet.att.net
Residing: eddystone
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 11:31:48
bev, i remember earro's...some of my friends use to work there in the 60's. use to get fresh hot rolls there all the time....my mother lived in sullivan county untill she passed away a few years ago. i still have cousins that live there...(hillsgrove).
Name: Robert
Email:
Residing: Chester, Pa
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 09:47:54
I just started reading the News Stand and it's interesting to see people sharing memories. As for the nameless person who wrote: "open the hoagie, guess what we get, a large hoagie with only the meat and cheese, nothing else but meat and cheese and 2 hot peppers wrapped in some sandwich paper, it was the driest hoagie I ever had," I challenge your honesty on that remark. I've been going to DiCostanza's for 35 years and I'm always full and content with a delicious hoagie, and looking forward to another. By the way, Augie is Little Joe's son, not nephew. And you can order a next day hoagie by mail from DiCostanza's weeb site or by calling the shop, but be warned, the shipping for overnight perishable goods is expensive. It's best if you get a large order to help defray the cost. My buddy in Fla. had 15 Italian Specials sent down for a work-lunch-thing and the shipping cost was split up and more acceptable to his co-workers. Just some food for thought. http://www.dicostanzas.com
Name: Steve
Email:
Residing: Chesapeake, Va
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 08:54:15
Well, here's another view of the "hoagie history", but it dates back to 1925.
http://www.dicostanzas.com/About.asp
My opinion is you can't get a better hoagie than DiCostanza's. Real Italian meats are used, and the vegies are bought at the Italian market in Philly. How many other places slice the tomato over top of the hoagie, that's fresh. The peppers are cooked on site just like grandmom used to do. There is no lettuce "filler". For 77 years there hasn't been a compromise on quality, that says alot about a business to me.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 10 Aug 2002
Time: 05:50:50
John has again added history to the What's New section of Oldchesterpa...also added reunion information there.
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/biographies/spellacy_ed.htm
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/smedley_65_reunion.htm
As ususal this information can be found in the what's new section of the menu.
Thanks John....
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 23:00:18
Well Michelle, it certainly is a small world and this oldchester.pa site makes it grow even smaller. So your dad owned and operated a successful bistro - glad to hear it. I didn't know any McCarthy families back home except for Jean McCarthy who was a schoolmate at CHS. I knew the Mangan family whose mother, Loretta, was formerly a McCarthy - is there a connection there? The reference to "Kerr" in your first post was also interesting.
Also Richie is referring to Pat Bratton and Pat McMahon - both of whom were classmates at CHS. Well, at least he got his Pat's right.
Your dad really was not only a handsome fellow but very charming and well liked, and it appears he raised a daughter with as much charm.
Tell me how to obtain a copy of that St. James choir disc and I will order one, because I would like to hear it.
Thank you Michelle for being so gracious and if your dad and mom get on the board, I would love to say "hello".
Name:
Email: hternove@comcast.net
Residing: Middletown Twp.
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 22:37:02
Great job you are doing for us old timers of Chester , keep up the good work
Hank T
Name: Michele Krolick
Email: boxersrmyheart@aol
Residing: Middletown DE
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 22:31:56
Hey Pat, I am sorry that I left out your question about Richard Mc Gonigal. That handsome guy is my Dad, I just hung up the phone from him and he told me that he use to dance with you a St. Michael's. He also mentioned a Patsy Braton and Pat McMourn (sp). My dad is doing great and is still as handsome as ever!! He is a member of the Blue and Gray Voices, that is the St. James all male Choir. If you ever get the opportunity to hear them sing I am sure you would Love it. They just made a Christmas CD so maybe you could have one sent to you. It is funny that you mentioned my hair being Red/Blonde, because it is. My dad married a Beautiful Red head named Mary Mc Carthy from Chester, she went to Chester High. Well, it certainly is a small world and I enjoy getting the scoop on who my Dad was dancing with!! My parents will be back online soon so maybe you two can say hello.
Take Care Michele Krolick
Name: Bev. Fraim
Email: bevtoolady@rcn.com
Residing: Woodlyn,Pa.
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 21:38:07
Does anyone remember Earro's Bakery in the west end of Chester.They supplied rolls to a " sub " shop in Chesapeake City,Md. out skirts.The owner was from Chester,and said she couldn't get good rolls in Md.My dad,Skeeter Haynes,use to take dozens of them to the owner every week. Talking about good hoagies,I used to live in Sun Village where Joe Squire had a hoagie shop.My cousin,Marie Maitland use to work for Joe. My husband and I bought a place in Sullivan County,Pa. They put fresh green peppers on their hoagies ! I miss my child hood days in Chester. Bev.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing:
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 19:35:06
Well I did read many years ago that the bread was indeed the deciding factor in the best hoagie. I could be wrong but I think it mentioned the type of water that was used in the process. That's why I can have the best and original receipes available, but where do I get the bread. Because in the old-fashioned hoagies the bread was not an overwhelming feature, it blended right in with the rest of the ingredients.
With a hamburger, for instance, when I'm half-way through it, I will sometimes remove the top layer, because it's just too much "bread" and not that tasty either.
Just my humble opinion.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 19:16:03
And yet another view of where the Hoagie originated...my better half came from So. Philly and it has always been a on going argument.
http://www.moogys.com/hoagie_history.htm
Name: Craig Rainey
Email:
Residing: Chester,Pa
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 18:50:10
Diconstanza'a created the hoagie, Stackies later became the favorite, but presently the very best hoagie, with the freshest ingredients, and the perfect combination of meats, cheeses, and vegetables are available at Ro Lynn's Deli on Edgemont Avenue in Brookhaven, Pa. They have a hoagie called the Godfather, as well as the special, the Turkey, the Nigerian, which consists of no pork products "my preference", and the traditional Italian. Try it; You'll like. Also available are all of the Italian groceries that you may need to prepare your own cuisines. Trust; Fled
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 17:45:45
Don't know if anyone has visited the new addition to Wellington Ridge in the neighborhood section. John has added the website for the Chester Housing Authority the site even shows the floor plans of all the units.
this is the link http://www.chesterhousingauthority.org/developments/wellington.html
In the future you can just go to the side menu and click on neighborhoods then to Wellington Ridge at the top of the page you can see the link.
Name: Dan CHS 54
Email:
Residing:
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 16:58:13
Harvey is correct about the most important ingredient of the hoagie--the bread. At least until 1965 when I left Chester, Bunos(sp)Bakery supplied most of the popular shops. The bread was always crisp on the outside, soft on the inside, with a split on top. Since there were no preservatives added, the bread was only fresh for a day and most shops got several orders a day. The bread we get today regardless of where we are is made w/preservatives to last. They are flat (easier to cut) and soft the outside( easier to bite). None of these breads should be called Italian bread. Now someone tell me where to get a hoagie like we used to get at Stackey's, Mike's, or D'Costanza's
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 13:10:31
Well Michelle, that is quite a coincidence, isn't it - that Betty Kerr by marriage to Jack Kerr; while my friends were brother and sister. But sounds like Jack could be the same age as the Jack I knew.
How about Richie McGonigal - is he the same one I described?
Thanks for responding, Michelle.
Name: Harvey Martin
Email: hsmartin@snip.net
Residing: Parkside
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 11:20:36
The most important hoagie ingredient is the Amorosa Roll!
Name: Michele
Email: Boxersrmyheart@aol
Residing: Middletown De
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 07:16:37
Pat, Hello, I hope I did not send this twice, I am sorry if I did.
I saw your post re: Betty Kerr and we are talking about two different Betty's. My Aunt Betty is Betty Mc Carthy of Chester and she Married Jack Kerr. She is one of 14, 8 girls and 6 boys. My mom is here sister Mary.
Oh and all this talk about Hoagies has my glands salavating!! I hope I can find someone from up there to come and vist today and bring me a Hoagie. You can't find a good hoagie down here in Middletown.
Take Care Michele
Name: Michele Krolick
Email: boxersrmyheart@aol.com
Residing: Middletown
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 07:09:40
Pat, Hello My Aunt Betty that I am speaking of is Betty Mc Carthy of Chester Pa, who married Jack Kerr. She is one of 14 children. 8 girls and 6 boys. My Mom is Mary her sister. My Aunt Betty still lives in PA. So we are talking about 2 different Betty's.
Oh and while I am on here all this talk about Hoagies, You guys that are still able to hop in the car and drive 5-10 min. to pick up a sandwich don't know how lucky you are!!! Living down here in Middletown DE, you couldn't find a good hoagie if you were the best detective on the planet. So now that you have made my glads salavate I am gonna have to see if I can have someone from up there come and Visit!!!
Best to all Michele
Name: Tracy Lyons Kline
Email: kaky412@aol.com
Residing: Newark,DE
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 00:53:10
This is in response to Pat---I told my best friend Michele about this site. She is the granddaughter of Billie Ritchie, the one I was telling everyone about. She finally signed in. This site is great & I like to pass on the information to everyone that grew up in Chester.
As far as the hoagie goes, I now live in Newark,DE and you cannot get a good hoagie around here. I stop on Friday nights at Carmira's on Chichester Ave. They make a great hoagie there. My favorite still is Phill & Jim's. When I can I stop there. I don't go there often because it takes so long to get home.
Long live Chester, PA.
Tracy
Name: Tom Morrison
Email: tmorr42@aol.com
Residing: Chadds Ford PA
Date: 09 Aug 2002
Time: 00:02:25
Worked at LaSpada's Original for 14 years.(1977 - 1991)Parkside & Milmont Park. Became an owner in 1991 at the Milmont park location (MacDadeBLVD) in 1991, Charlie JR'S Partner. Still an owner. 25 years making LaSpada's Original Steaks & Hoagies.
Italian Special: Imported Boiled Ham, Capacola, Provolone cheese, Genoa Salami, Lettuce, Tomato, Chopped onion, Dill pickle, Sweet or Hot Peppers, olive oil, oregano, then topped with Peppered Ham. (Prosuttio add $1.00)
Thats It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! been making them this way for 25 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 23:57:29
Since alot of people are talkin' about hoagies, thought I'd share this , I'm a hoagie lover from way back, italian hoagie that is, well one Friday nite, weekends were always sandwich's nite, anyway we were wanting hoagies, so I go, hey let's go to D'Constanza's in Linwood, they should be pretty good thier, I'm thinking D'Constanza's anywhere should be good right, well I order a large Italian and could I have the hot peppers on the side, 'cos the person I'm sharing it with don't like peppers, anyways we go get the hoagie, come home, ready to eat, open the hoagie, guess what we get, a large hoagie with only the meat and cheese, nothing else but meat and cheese and 2 hot peppers wrapped in some sandwich paper, it was the driest hoagie I ever had, I had to put some mayo on it, and don't believe I'll order there anymore!
Name: Craig Rainey
Email:
Residing: Chester, Pa
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 23:31:05
Diconstanza's created the hoagie, Stackies later became a favorite, but presently the very best hoagie with the freshest ingredients, and the perfect combination of meats, cheese, and vegetables are available at Ro Lynn Deli on Edgmont avenue in Brookhaven Pa. They have a hoagie called the Godfather, as well as the Turkey, the Special, the Nigerian which consist's of meat's that are not pork "my choice", and the traditional Italian. Try It, you'll like. Also available here are all of the Italian groceries that you may need to prepare your own cuisines. Trust; Fled.
Name: trisha
Email:
Residing: brookhaven
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 22:54:50
a good italian hoagie never has chopped onions.........sliced onion will do.........
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 22:20:31
To Michele Krolick. Are you referring to Betty Kerr, brother Jack, mother Grace, father and older brother both by the name of Bill, I believe?
Betty Kerr married Joe Briare after she moved to Arizona in approx. 1948. If it is the same Betty Kerr, she had 3 daughters and one son - as I recall. She and I were close classmates at Rez and Notre Dame and kept in touch after she moved to Phoenix due to her dad's health. Grace, her mother (now deceased), was one of the sweetest and dearest people I have ever known. All in this family are now deceased except Betty, if we are talking about the same person. Believe she still resides in Arizona in perhaps Chino Valley?
Regarding Richard McGonigle - was he a '48 or '49 St. James graduate - very handsome dark-haired, not too tall fellow? Real charming smile with an Irish look about him? If so, I find very interesting what he did with his life and that the McGonigles and Kerrs are related and I would like to know how, because of the Kerr family moving to Phoenix.
Please respond Michele, because it's your generation this site looks forward to and it's so nice to know you not only enjoy but contribute. Email John Bullock at his website and he will make the decision about where to post your articles (which I would love to see) and let us know where we can find them. Jack Kerr would be the right age to serve in the Korean conflict. I have a feeling we're talking about the same family and I would like to know whose daughter you are. If there's a direct Kerr/Briare connection, then you must be red/blonde hair with freckles. Welcome aboard.
Pat McFadden
Name: Michele Krolick
Email: boxersrmyheart@aol.com
Residing: Middletown DE
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 20:19:19
Hello, Great Site of the Good Old Days of Chester that I so frequently hear about from my parents. I was told of this site by my Dear Friend Tracy and My Lovely Aunt Betty Kerr. My Grandfater is the Late "Billy Ritchie" Richard Mc Gonigal of Chester PA. He owned and operated Billy Richies Hotel and Bar on Chester Pike in Leiperville, wich he purchased from Baron Dougherty in October of 1954. He also owned the bar on Morton Ave. in Chester. I have a newpaper article of the write up that was printed in the Chester Times dated Nov. 4,1954 If you would be interested in the picture of the hotel or the article I would love to send it. It does make me sad that the building burned down and is no longer there for me or anyone to see. I am sure many of you out there have places of Chester that were near and dear to your hearts and now all you have are the memories because the building are gone.
I also have an Uncle that is pictured on this site, Jack Kerr. He is one of the Sailors pictured in the Veterans section Korean War.
Thaks for the Memories Michele McGonigal Krolick
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 18:48:54
Now, see - ain't that nice? Everything's sweet, everything's fine - and all is well in old Chester and surrounding areas - including the rest of the good ole USA - thank our dear and patient Lord.
There was an article in our daily paper today regarding a "war on spam". I am of the opinion that only our prayers (I think God approves of this new technology) will give the needed wisdom to those individuals gifted with such scientific knowledge to rid us of this destructive "worm" - much like the serpent in the Garden of Eden. We are entering a new world with this technology and I would imagine that the serpent, as always, has to make his presence known. His jealous nature dictates that he do so.
Now, let the games begin!!
Name: C.
Email: Post Script...
Residing:
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 16:49:11
Pat: Thanks for explaining the note. Also I have no idea why it said spam. Perhaps the receiver has such things as Family.com in the fire wall to block ads that they send.
Maybe Toms provider deemed it spam since it came from the family.com site. I also have a spam blocker on my computer and a zone alarm and a virus alarm...so I understand why when he saw spam that he questioned.
Tom I can be reached on that address as well as the one here.
Caroline
Name: Caroline
Email: carpete@verizon.net
Residing:
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 16:26:12
Tom: Hello, I am sorry if you received a note meant for the people in Harveys site. I do not send spam. I sent each note on a one to one base. I don't send group mailings. Some of the people that visit Harv's site have been adding profiles and pictures so to re-introduce some of them to the site I sent them a note about adding to their profiles.
All were on the members list. If you received one in error, I'm sorry. I received only one back that they do not receive spam mail, that may have been from you. I just tried to email you privately on the email address you provided on this site and it came back.
By the way your name is still on the family com site. I just clicked back to recheck before submitting this post. I normally would not post anything regarding others web sites on this open board but since this is the only way that I can reach you and assure you that the mail was meant for those on the members list..You last visited that site on May 3 or 5th.
Caroline
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 16:09:39
Tom, I received the same email from Caroline (yes, the one who always posts here) except it did not have the first line about "spam". etc. I'm sure Caroline will clarify this when she gets back on the board.
However, the address of the sender is MyFamily.com which is a legitimate site (and legitimate for Caroline to send from that site) that you apparently have joined. Caroline is just telling us about our "profile" area there where we can post our personal photo and facts about ourselves. Her opening line to me was that she was sending this to everyone and it's just likely that your receiving end includes all that additional information. I don't think it's harmful in any way, not at all. Caroline will respond, I am sure, shortly.
In my last post, I should have said that the word "golf" IS an acronym, not "originally was". Sorry.
Name: Patrick Sheeky
Email: p.sheeky@att.net
Residing: Wilmington, DE
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 15:22:49
REZ-58 SJ-62
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 14:53:26
What was the name of the family that used to own the Boatyard in Upland?
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 14:15:39
I'm not sure that it's the same Caroline that is always posting here. But that post was more of a question. Does anyone know anything about what it is talking about.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 13:47:27
Now that we have some receipes for original hoagies, where on the hoagie do we put the stamp in order to mail it and how can we be sure they won't be eaten along the way?
My favorite judge was Solomon.
Just learned something else today. The word "golf" was originally an acronym - Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden. G-O-L-F. And "F-A-M-I-L-Y" submitted by Caroline is beautiful - gotta love it.
Name: Jack Rez51
Email:
Residing: Ohio
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 12:45:21
Thanks to everyone for all of the info on making an old fashion Chester Hoagie.
Italian meats, provalone, peppers, salad oil with basil/oregano,on a crisp roll. The Italian Hoagie is the one I remember.
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 12:23:28
This is the email I recieved. Does anyone know anything about it?
From: "Caroline D" <CarolineS19@myfamily.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book To: "Tom Bulger" <t9257@yahoo.com> Subject: CC: Date: 7 Aug 2002 15:47:10 -0600
Hi Tom: some of us have added pictures to our profile..I did, Harvey, John B., Bud and there is one of Florence. Take a look and join in on the Chester Park family fun.
Did you know that "Father And Mother I Love You" = FAMILY -take the first letter of each work. Isn't that a lovely thought.
Caroline
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 12:16:10
Actually the best hoagie I ever had came from a place in Chester called Moriani's. We don't always make them, actually sometimes we buy, especially when we all get together. I know that their are turkey,roast beef, reg., Italion, cheese,tuna, and etc. Tom there is a place called Chester Park.com. I have not posted any pictures there, I don't have the way of doing it.Harve I don't know about a chat room. It has recipe's also. florence
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 08 Aug 2002
Time: 11:50:38
I got an email from a Caroline D some about a Chester Park chat site. It specifically said something about pictures being posted by Harvey, John B, Bud, and Florence. Is this legit or an advertisement of some kind. Hopefully on of you can let me know if you see this.
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 23:13:50
Mike: Many places don't use lettuce. The recipes that you see are homemade and the veg. are of the persons own choice. Mike and Emmas doesn't put lettuce on either. The Duke of Earls makes a great old fashion one. There are various types of hoagies. You can get a good Turkey hoagie on RT 13 in New Castle DE at the Dog House and a 3 cheese hoagie next to the Pike Deli in Ridley Park...One hoagie I like which is not a traditional is the Roast Beef Hoagie. All roast beef and Provolone cheese with the dressings. Then for some its the pepperoni hoagie. (that one I could never get a fancy for) and the chicken salad hoagie or the tuna hoagie. theres even a catfish hoagie..(sounds sick doesn't it)
The best hoagies in chester could have come from DiCostanza's on 3rd street. Didn't Mrs. DiConstanza invent the hoagie when some hungrey card players came in and smelled her making the roasted peppers and wanted them on a sandwich she threw together for them. Then there is LeSpada's aslo said to have invented the sandwich. And Stackies...great steaks. I see Sonny May is building a water Ice stand just down the street from Stackies, same side across from the old place of business.
So who really did invent he Hoagie...I like the following article. Nice people
http://dicostanzas.com/About.asp
Name: charlie
Email:
Residing: chester pa.
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 22:50:49
Other judges from Chester Louie Bloom, Melvin Levy and Ed Zetusky. Also Bobby Wright.
Name: mike Garvey
Email: chesterchevy19061@hotmail
Residing: trainer
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 21:29:18
Little Joe never put lettuce on a deconstanzas hoagie. His nephew aggie still makes them the same way hand slices tom. right in front of you. They will mail one over night. They are on market street in linwood pa 19061. Stacky makes a good one also.
Name: mike Garvey
Email: chesterchevy19061@hotmail
Residing: trainer
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 21:29:07
Little Joe never put lettuce on a deconstanzas hoagie. His nephew aggie still makes them the same way hand slices tom. right in front of you. They will mail one over night. They are on market street in linwood pa 19061. Stacky makes a good one also.
Name: mike garvey
Email: chesterchevy19061@hotmail
Residing: trainer
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 21:23:16
Little joe from Deconstanzas never put lettuce on a hoagie.They mail them if you want to have one over nighted to you. They are on market street in Linwood Pa,19061. His nephew auggie makes them now. Best I ever had. Stacky makes a good one also.
Name: C.
Email: Caroline
Residing:
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 20:34:49
Jack..Rez51: Heres how we make them in our house. We are within a drive to Philly so are able to get the best of Italian meats and cheese.
A total of about 3oz of meat and cheese per hoagie. (individual Hoagies)
meats/cheese: Dry Salome, Prosciutto, Capocolla, and Provolone.
Veg. : lettuce, onion, tomato, sweat peppers (jar type) hot peppers (jar) roasted peppers where available. pickles.
salt, pepper and oregano to taste
3 blend oil...if that’s not available try mixing veg. oil with olive oil.
take your roll, put the oil on, (some like extra oil) add the veg. you like, season with the S/P/O. place your meats and cheese on top...enjoy.
some of us put the meats/cheese on the bottom and the veg. in the center of the meat.
If Italian meats are not available where you live, get Boiled Ham or Italian Ham at the market and Genoa Salome..American cheese can be used in a pinch.
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 20:02:34
I forgot at the end of building your sandwhich, few more slices of ham on top of the other.
salt and pepper to taste.
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 20:00:09
hoagie
1 roll, chopped lettuce,sliced tomatoes,chopped onions, hot peppers,pickle slices, sprinkle of olive oil and oregano, few slices of ham, few slices of provolone, few slices of salami, few slices of capicol, hot or sweet. Layer the lunch meats on top of the vegetables. Some people prefer mayonaise. We make our own often.
For Judges , how about Judge MacDade.
Name: Jack Rez51
Email:
Residing: Ohio
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 18:14:51
What are the ingredients in a good old fashion Chester Hoagie? What kind of ham, cheese, other the meat and dressing? Peppers? Tomatos? Onions?
Found a place out here in Ohio that makes rolls that are close to the kind I remember. Plan to have a Hoagie party and need the fixins. Paul Newman's Italian Salad dressing comes close for the dressing.
None of the chain restaurants selling subs make the sandwich the way I remember them from Chester. I don't remember ever having a heated Hoagie in Chester.
Any help is apprciated.
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 09:28:49
I remember we used to swim at the falls at Chester Park. I also remember the spring at the other end. My cousin was sledding down the hill onto the frozen creek and the ice broke luckily we got him out he was freezing. We wrapped him in our coats and rushed home. I used to ride the merry go round in the park until I got sick. I still can't ride rides that spin to this day.
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 08:58:53
It is about Chester!
Does anyone remember the fishing rodeo's they always used to have in Chester Park?
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 07 Aug 2002
Time: 06:08:21
really none, just trying to generate some Chester area history..thought maybe there were others. Looks like most people are on vacation. Maybe someone else can add to the list, we have listed the doctors so why not the Judges. Evidently Chester did provide a basic education foundation that could carry people on to bigger and better things in life. The school system presently is a news item often.. Really no point, just an observation. Saw a picture of some old time judges and lawyers on the site which was food for the thought..
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 06 Aug 2002
Time: 23:47:40
......and your point is?
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 06 Aug 2002
Time: 23:18:04
Chester has given Delaware County many judges over the years either by birth, schooling or family roots.
President Judge Francis J. Catania Judge Clement J. McGovern, Jr. - Judge Anthony R. Semeraro - Judge Joseph F. Battle Former Mayor of Chester Senior Judge John V. Diggings - Senior Judge Robert A. Wright - Judge Kathrynann W. Durham
Name: Ilene Marion
Email: DOUBLESEVENS@MSN.COM
Residing: Parkside
Date: 06 Aug 2002
Time: 14:24:09
I have been enjoying this site, and have shared it with many. It is especially interesting to see the old pictures.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 06 Aug 2002
Time: 12:32:48
For the Beatle fans among us....Rose Tree Park is the location if your still local.
Beatlemania Now - a live onstage tribute to the Beatles as seen on Broadway! Traces their career from 1964-1970.
http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/summer/index.html
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 06 Aug 2002
Time: 00:00:16
.....the day the music died,
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 05 Aug 2002
Time: 21:00:45
and don't forget the roasted peppers...hot on the side.
Name: The Deaf One
Email:
Residing: Southern MD
Date: 05 Aug 2002
Time: 20:40:55
You'll never know, that'll be next getting food by e-mail....LOL Replication of the food via computers...LOL
Name: BILL LOCKE
Email: wlocke2@comcast.net
Residing: Claymont,DE
Date: 05 Aug 2002
Time: 17:43:59
E-MAIL A HOAGIE I'LL HAVE TO GET ONE OF THOSE!!JUST KIDDING. TO HOAGIE LOVER: DICOSTANZAS WILL SEND HOAGIES OVERNIGHT.LOOK FOR THE LINK IN LINKS TO THE LEFT OF THIS.BY THE WAY ORDER THE ITALIAN HOAGIE
Name: The Deaf One
Email:
Residing: Southern MD
Date: 05 Aug 2002
Time: 15:58:31
The only place that will e-mail you hoagies would be www.tasteofphiladelphia.com, La Spada is still there but under new owners. Phil and Jim's is still standing.
Name: Hoagie lover
Email:
Residing: California
Date: 05 Aug 2002
Time: 15:42:07
From the hoagie poll, are all those places still operating? Do any of them do mail order hoagies? My mouth is watering for a large Special everything hot! Do they have websites? (submitting comments with stomach growling)
Name: Bob F(SJ'60)
Email:
Residing: NJ
Date: 05 Aug 2002
Time: 09:55:33
Ed
Yes now I remember you. My Mom still lives in that house on Harwick St. What a great neighborhood that used to be.
Don't remember your wife Lynda, but do remember your sister Jane.
Bob
Name: rocky kershinski
Email:
Residing:
Date: 04 Aug 2002
Time: 17:17:14
to sheree i think cook e jar is from phila
Name: E. Rzasa
Email: cyprsegreen@comcast.net
Residing: Boothwyn. Pa.
Date: 03 Aug 2002
Time: 20:38:59
The family that resided behind the old Holy Ghost Church were the Rzasa Family. And yes we loved our rockers. My sister Jane was married to Frank Wiechecki Jr. He owned two race cars.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Phoenix
Date: 03 Aug 2002
Time: 19:30:46
Caroline - Now that I see the picture, I do remember the Caterpiller - what fun that was. The photo of the inventor with only family members aboard is understandable - fear of the unknown. Now, what a "gentle" ride that would be.
Florence - it wouldn't have taken too large a person to have "squashed" you. You were so petite, and so was your nature. I see you are gaining more confidence in using your wit on this site and everyone adores you for it - I told you you were funny. I hope my encouragement gave you more confidence. You're a luv. Somehow, my humor is misunderstood, so I have "squashed" it - for now at least - but only on this site.
Where is Ed Gebhart? No columns lately, or have I overlooked something?
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 03 Aug 2002
Time: 18:19:03
I remember I almost got squashed by much bigger person then myself.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 03 Aug 2002
Time: 17:27:53
Florence, Patricia, all you old time shore goers: this is what the caterpillar looked like, come on ...someone has a good story about this ride.
http://www.ridezone.com/oprides/caterpillar/caterpillars.htm
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 03 Aug 2002
Time: 09:24:54
Caroline I remember the caterpilla very well. It was my favorite ride at one time. I can't ever remember going to Wildwood. The only beach's we went to were in Delaware. We used to meet all the family at Clemomton park for a get together long ago. In all our years, how many tunes have we heard, how much history have we been thru. I wonder how we got so old so fast. I see in Chester where they are building a Hall of Fame for sports. Great idea. Remember the Hit Parade. So many great singers.
Name: +++
Email:
Residing:
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 22:33:35
The lovely lady that you saw rocking on her porch always had something in her hands doing. She may have been sitting there splitting peas, or peeling potaotos. She was never an ideal person. With a very large family and raising them by herself it was no easy task. Her day began very early and like so many others in that part of Chester ended very late. Her children were raised with a work ethic that is not the norm these days. Their father died early in some of their lives but all turned out well in a one parent family. The older children helping to care for the younger. They all worked hard for the family as was the way back then.
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing:
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 22:19:28
Thanks Caroline for your input. I don't think any beach area has had as many songs written about it as the NJ shore. I guess that's because all great artists came from the East Coast, then migrated to the West Coast - but it appears that tunes were inspired on the East Coast - when and where the artists were "Young at Heart".
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 22:10:51
I remember someone on Harwick Street behind the old church They used to rock on their rocking chairs for hours. I use to ride my bike around the school block and be amazed that they still rocked that much. I think they were related to someone who had a race car on 4th street. Jane? or something. The house next to them was always in trouble or didn't pay their bills and a gas station. Is this the same family?
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 20:47:32
I have been away and just read about George, I am so sorry to hear of his passing. I only met him on the oldchesterpa site but I thought he did a heck of a job trying to keep the chat room going. The times we did write I could detect a great sense of humor. God Bless your angel he will always be smiling down upon you.
Name: Caroline
Email:
Residing:
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 20:27:33
Betty: Our daughter graduated in 1982 and a furniture store was still giving small Hope Chests out in the Cape May area.
Many a light has been fixed over the years thanks to the teachings of Mr. Phillips. At least in my house and by your truly
Patricia: People are still doing what Pat Boone sang about during our time.."writing Love letters in the sand"..the only difference now is that it is growing in leaps and bounds with high priced housing. But here on the east coast housing is expensive anyway, it is a very desirable area to live. That Boardwalk pizza is still good and the french fries sprinkled with vinegar is only a summer treat. One ride that is missing is the caterpillar..Remember that one..
Name: Carol(Reimschussel)Shadwell (CHS 52)
Email: clshadwell@aol.com
Residing: N. Wilm. De
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 20:10:25
Betty Ratliff Marth- I graduated in 52 and I still have my ceder chest. I dont know when thay stopped giving them. Carol
Name:
Email:
Residing:
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 20:01:55
Ed: Your wife was beautiful-- alot of guys must have had a faster heart beat or two when she walked down 3rd street. But your the lucky one that stole her heart for all these years.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Hot and Humit Phoenix, AZ
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 19:10:40
Well folks, the weekend is upon us and I have a suggestion. Those of you still living back home and are lucky enough to have access to the shore, why don't you post current news about the "happenings" there. I'm sure a lot of you go there for the weekend and let us who don't have that privilege know what's going on there. Although a few folks disagreed with me sometime ago about the shore being a part of Chester's history, I still feel that it is because a lot of people connected and re-connected there.
Share it with us.
Name: E R
Email: cypresgreen@comcast.net
Residing: Boothwyn, Pa.
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 19:00:34
To B Felix:If you stood at the rear of your house in chester, looked across the tracks,,my house was the first one from the alley behind the old church. You might not rember me, I was a little older that you. In 1959 I was 24 when I married Lynda Kasper. She was 18, closer to your age. Didn't you have a thing for her? Ed Rzasa
Name: TomCHS76
Email: t9257"chs76"@yahoo.com
Residing: PA
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 11:03:15
To Pat: No that would not have been the same Louis he would only be around 50 as he and Patty as I remeber were not that far apart in years, maybe a couple.
To Mary: Yes the Lotus was definitely blue. I remember I was 15 at the time when Louis got killed. They had that car parked in front of the house for the longest time before they got rid of it. It was about 6 months after the funeral and I mustered up the nerve to ask Glen if he would sell it to me. I wasn't even 16 yet, but you know how a kids mine works. I really thought they would sell it to me real cheap like 2 thousand dollars. I know now that that was unrealistic to try to get at the time a 75 thousand dollar car for 2. But anyway Glen told me that he would not sell that car to me because it was to fast and I would get hurt in it. If you know what ever happened to them let me know. Thanks Tom
Name: Sheree (Austin) McGowan
Email: Picabostow@hotmail.com
Residing: Ohio
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 09:35:26
To Rocky: I saw your posting about Cook E Jarr in Vegas. I was there last weekend at Harrah's Carnival and saw him. Isn't he from N.E. PA?? I know back in the late 70's there was a Cook E Jarr.
Name: Theresa Wolfe
Email: Mtsmz@ptdprolog.net
Residing:
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 07:45:35
Thank you all for the kind words about my dad, they are greatly appreciated. Please keep him in your prayers and in you hearts. Keep passing on the stoies and the memories that he shared with all of you. Thanks again.
Name: Mary
Email:
Residing: West Chester PA
Date: 02 Aug 2002
Time: 00:15:02
I remember the Phillips family on Edgmont Avenue. The father, Glen, worked with my father in my father's business for awhile which was painting lines on parking lots. The mother's name was Leigh. I remember Louis and his Lotus. It was blue, I think. I remember when he was killed in the car accident. Ironically, my sister was killed in a car accident around the same time. Her name was Jean Connors. She graduated Notre Dame in 1966 and was 20 at the time. I was only 12 then and I was wondering if anyone knew her. I don't remember too much about her.
Name: Pat McFadden (CHS50)
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 23:55:03
Welcome Ed D - I'm sure you will get responses and so glad to see your post. You will enjoy it here and I know you have a lot of worthwhile information to contribute regarding the history of old Chester. Welcome aboard my friend.
Name: Betty Ratliff Marth
Email: grambemenospam@aol.com
Residing: East Wenatchee, Wa.
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 23:32:14
Hi Caroline, Yes, Mr. Phillips did teach us to repair a lamp. I always wanted to try that but Marty wouldn't let me near his work bench. Give Joan my love.
Do any of the female 1954 CHS graduates still have their miniature Cedar Chests that were given to us by MJ Freed Furniture Store as a graduation gift? I do. Do businesses still do that for Graduates?? I don't think so. Have a great weekend. Some of my kids are coming over the Mountains for the weekend. Marty is going to Sturgis, S.D. for the motorcycle rally so when the Cat's away the Mice (or in this case, The Marth's will play. It's Partytime!!
Name: Kate N.D. 65
Email: brit1675@bellsouth.net
Residing: Panama City Beach, Fl.
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 23:27:32
Jane Collins Van Zandt, thanks for answereing.
Name: ed d
Email: revisered1nospam@cs.com
Residing: brookhaven
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 22:46:38
I am looking for information about the Third and Norris Streets area circa 1940. Pictures and information about White's Funeral Home, and the adjacent row of apartments, local stores, the trolley line, and Immaculate Heart would be useful. I am writing a novel for children and would like to make my background as authentic as possible. I lived in the area as a child, but White's and the apts. are gone along with Tommy Reardon. I remember the Railway Express?? office on Third Street between Tilghman and Central. And the movie a few blocks west but not its name. I went to IH for first and second grade but moved away in '37. If there is a book(let) about the time and place given above, I'd like to see it as it may be of help. Thanks for any help you might offer.
Name: Tracy Lyons Kline
Email: kaky412@aol.com
Residing:
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 22:22:53
Bill Locke,
You are right-their farm was on Faulk rd. I went there when Ritchie owned it in the 80's. His family & mine had many a party & good time there. They are the days I remember-not Billie Ritchie's Bar. I just thought I would mention the bar since it was a part of history.
Ritchie's daughter & I often talk about her grandfather. I also see Ritchie often at different functions & parties. He now lives down here in Middletown,DE with his family. He is doing great. I just told him about this website, he will be signing on soon.
Name: Jane Collins Van Zandt
Email:
Residing: Gradyville, PA
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 21:21:00
Kate, No, I'm not related to Judy from Eyre Park. I was from Buckman Village and graduated in 1952.
Name: rocky kershinski
Email:
Residing:
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 20:07:35
cook e jar is playing at harrah carnaval court midnight to 2am friday and saturday in las vegas he and the crumbs use to play at the sahara for years saw him in april
Name: Pat McFadden
Email:
Residing: Arizona
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 18:09:07
TOM (CHS76) - Regarding Louis Phillips - I knew a Louis Phillips way back when and I am wondering if it is the same person. If he were still alive, would he be in his 70's? Did he have light, really curly/wavy hair and a broad face? The Louis Phillips I knew (but not real well) had a "touch of class" as I recall. Please reply.
Incidently, where is our reply from Tony Molla? Want to know if you are the Tony Molla I knew. If so, you were a real "fun-loving" guy - and your initial posts sounds that way.
Name: Florence
Email:
Residing:
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 10:35:23
At least 100 years ago. Their was a Robert J. Knott furniture store. At some point McCrory's bought the store and turned it in to a five and dime. I don't know if thats what you are looking for, but most likely that is it. He was my husbands grandfather,
Name: Bob F (STJ'60)
Email:
Residing: NJ
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 07:51:18
ER
Yes I am one and the same. I do remember all the folks that you mentioned and am now trying to pur a name to ER. There were only 2 housed that fronted on Harwick between 3rd. and 4th.
Name: Bob F.(STJ'60)
Email:
Residing: NJ
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 07:47:57
I just returned from vacation and checked the board. Let me say how shocked I was at the passing of George Malick. Didn't know George long, actually we just met on here a few weeks ago. My sincere condolences to his family. He will be missed.
Name: S Barta
Email: gbarta@ix.netcom.com
Residing: Atlanta, GA
Date: 01 Aug 2002
Time: 02:30:12
I have a very beautiful antique china cabinet I inherited from my Great Grandmother. On it's bottom is stamped "K.C. Company, Chester, P.A." I am trying to get more information on this company as to identify the appx. age of the cabinet. Any help would be greatly appreciated.